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Any way to prevent "The AC power adapter type cannot be determined" message on XPS M1710? (AC adapter is properly plugged in)
I often get the following message between the "Dell" and "Windows" screens when I boot up my XPS M1710 while it's plugged in:
The AC power adapter type cannot be determined. The system can only boot with a 130 W power adapter or greater. Strike the F1 key to shutdown. To resolve this issue, try to reseat the power adapter.
This message occurs when the AC adapter is fully and properly inserted, and it is the Dell AC adapter that came with my laptop. Is there anything I can do (possibly a registry hack) to force the computer to boot instead of displaying this message? After it gives me this message and I'm forced to press F1 to shut it down, it takes an extremely long time to get through the "Dell" screen on the ensuing boot (1 minute or so). My battery holds so little charge that when this happens, I have to power the laptop on while it's plugged in, unplug it when the progress bar on the "Dell" screen has completed, then plug it back in when the "Windows" screen appears.
This is an old laptop and I will soon be getting a new one, so I'm not going to spend the money to buy a new AC adapter and/or battery for the XPS M1710, but I'd like to fix this problem if it can be done otherwise.
Thanks!
fmnjewel
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June 22nd, 2012 13:00
so all DELL's laptop experience same problem, so buy no ore this brand.
jerrytek
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July 19th, 2012 21:00
The battery is not getting a signal from the charger as to what charger is being used. This signal is sent via the small wire you see in the middle of the DC power plug. Either the wire in the charger cord is broken, or the connection from the laptop DC socket to the system board has broken. Both are common, with the socket problem more often. The first thing to do is either try your charger on another laptop, or try another charger on yours. If the charger is good, then the power socket needs to be replaced. Fortunately, on the E1525 (and the M1530), the power socket is not soldered to the system board, but is a small board that plugs into the system board. It will be repaired under warranty, but is inexpensive and not too difficult to replace yourself if out of warranty.
If the charger is bad,Maybe you should purchase a New Dell charger and these links maybe help you,Good luck!
accessories.us.dell.com/.../productdetail.aspx
www.eachbattery.com/dell-xps-m1710-ac-adapter-charger-p-543
causewayman
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July 25th, 2012 07:00
I had this problem almost a year ago. I bought a new adapter for about 30 bucks. It solved the issue. The second one started doing the same thing almost a year later. What I found was that where the end of the adapter that plugs into the laptop was the problem. The single wire inside the connector is not making contact. All you have to do, WHILE EVERYTHING IS UNPLUGGED!!!!!!! is to take a pen or mini screw driver and barely offset that pin. I mean just the littlest bit. This gets it to make contact with the laptop on the inside. I now have 2 good adapters that were constantly not charging the battery. It is all good now.
kleck096
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July 26th, 2012 07:00
That was the first thing I tried when I was having this problem and it didn't make a difference. For me the wire from the pin going inside the cable is the part that broke. New non -Dell adapter from China works much better! (and much cheaper)
Roadcase
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May 9th, 2013 03:00
I understand your frustration, but seriously.....the world should abandon a multi-billion dollar, Fortune 100 company..... because you had a problem with a cord?
That's gonna be a tough-sell.
I offer that if you look at the forum for ANY COMPUTER, you will find plenty of people that write the same letter about every brand out there.
....pointless and futile.
Pay the money for a Dell charger, or we'll see you here in a few days complaining about how the new charger you bought "doesn't work"
Roadcase
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May 9th, 2013 03:00
PS: Dell buys their chargers from the same company everyone else does.
And they also buy their pin-out connectors for the power-input from the same suppliers everyone else does. You folks talk like you think Dell makes these peripheral parts, and they do not. They buy electronics parts from the same suppliers as everyone...and that goes for chips, screens, hard-drives, connectors, cases, fans,...and yes, power supplies.
So no matter who you buy from, you will still get the same parts.
hshraifer0522
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June 3rd, 2013 02:00
I had the same issue. My power adapter was the problem. I discover this by accident, as I attempt to plug the cable from the adapter into the computer a bit harder and low and behold the M17x Laptop suddenly was aware of the power neccessary to run my old 260m graphics card. Dell did update my Bios though for free, even though my warenty was expired, so I am greatful they did help my there. But I really wish they didn't scare me about my motherboard going bad. Have your Dell techs convey it is the power adapter, it's common sense.
rockin982
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June 8th, 2013 05:00
I am experiencing this same problem. And it's much more than just a common case of pin failure in a power cord.
As has been shown to the be the case across many different Dell laptops from MANY MANY purchasers, Dell has designed their laptops with a proprietary chip pair to "identify" official Dell PSUs. One chip in the motherboard, one chip in the PSU brick. Either chip or any where along the electrical connection within the cable, plug end, or power jack can fail, and if so, you will get the 'unrecognized adpater" error, along with the attendant CPU throttling (about 75-80% on my laptop) and network connectivity problems, and the battery stops charging. And as demonstrated, this part tends to fail quickly and often.
All this might potentially be understandable if the power supply was actually having trouble supplying the required voltage to operate the laptop properly, but as demonstrated in many cases, the PSU is functioning perfectly fine as far as providing power. The ONLY problem is that one of the two ID chip is or the connection between them has failed, and the ONLY purpose these chips serve is to make sure that you're using an "official" Dell PSU.
In my case, my laptop is 4 years old, and out of warranty. To buy a new PSU from Dell is $90; if it's the chip on the mobo that failed,that's more like hundreds of dollars for a mobo replacement on my $2000 laptop - out of pocket. And all this just so that Dell can force me to only buy their "genuine" overpriced replacement parts.
I'd say that's a FANTASTIC reason not to do business with them ever again - that and the HOURS upon HOURS I've wasted with their offshore tech support who can barely understand English, let alone have any useful technical knowledge of computers or how to troubleshoot them without reading off of a script.
hshraifer0522
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June 9th, 2013 17:00
Ebay, for 40 bucks I got a new power adapter.
Search ebay for "Original OEM 240W Slim AC Power Adapter Cord/Charger Dell Alienware M17x Laptop"
The seller is yourdelldude.
Sasho
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September 27th, 2013 03:00
Not every company has the shoddy BIOS which prevents working components from being used, as in the case with Dell laptop battery charging. I have no issue with Dell's hardware, but with the policies implemented in the BIOS.
fastartcee
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October 18th, 2013 08:00
For 3 or 4 months I've been getting a similar message on my Inspiron N7010, but it boots & runs okay, and the battery seems to charge okay; I can unplug and run for couple hours with no problem. Right now, if I hover my cursor over the system tray battery icon, the message is, "97% available (plugged in, charging). So I think ROCKIN982 has given a cogent reply: the chip in the brick, or the chip on the motherboard has failed, or is failing, but the power adapter in fact is functioning.
I'll continue to ignore the warning until the battery won't charge at all ...then it will be time for a new laptop. (And it might be a Dell because, overall, my Inspiron has given me very good service.)
samvv
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September 2nd, 2014 09:00
Even though this thread is a bit old: thanks for the answer; bykleck096. You confirmed what I already suspected.
If anyone is interested, this article explains the defect:
http://www.laptop-junction.com/toast/content/inside-dell-ac-power-adapter-mystery-revealed
Anyways, after buying such an expensive laptop, I didn't really expect the charger to break so soon, or for that matter that it is such a common problem. Really makes me think about switching to another brand.
Sablicious
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April 1st, 2015 08:00
PSS: Dell might buy their parts from where most others do. But guess where those parts come from...
A. CHINA
In other words, all the fancy, useless lights and alien icon mean diddly squat because you're getting the same Gaungdong made garbage everyone else is, only for quadruple the price!
Sablicious
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April 1st, 2015 08:00
This is no "design flaw", as the article you linked to surmised. It's called "PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE".
It's clear these A/C adapters are designed to last only past the warranty period (if that -- my old XPS has the issue from day-one and was replaced under warranty and this same warning message appeared with my subsequent Alienware laptop and has now manifested again). Which, BTW, is a garbage "warranty" in and of itself, because consumer warranties override any arbitrary retail warranty of a product. All that's required is for consumers to have the inclination to chase their claims and retailers would have to honour them well past the measly warranties they offer, by law... but most people don't bother, so these Machiavellian practices continue unabated.
The fact that the power cable side of the adapter can be easily replaced for any region's power outlet plug configuration, yet the side of the adapter that actually breaks down - the circular plug that goes into the laptop - cannot, is all the evidence one needs to confirm that Dell manufacture these things for A) easy, cost effective multiple regional configurations (initial point), and B) premature breakdown to elicit more sales.
I'm coming up to a new gaming laptop purchase and, frankly, I don't see myself going with Dell again. They're just too money-grubbing and their products are really starting to show their rotting, "Made in China" flesh beneath their stylised, Christmas light lit veneer.
Anonymous User
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March 13th, 2016 15:00
Hi,
Nice answer. However this "issue" has happened to me a few times causing me to buy a new adapter FROM DELL once and using a used adapter that I had from an old computer. This is a nice way to pad profit but I won't be a customer of dell any longer.
Phil