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December 3rd, 2009 07:00

Can't see wwn of VMWare VMguest on Cisco MDS 5913 with NPIV enabled

I'm trying to see the wwn of a VMWare Virtual host on Cisco MDS 9513 with NPIV enable.  I already create the Virtual host with RDM disk and assigned a wwpn but wen I go to the Fabric I did not see the new wwn.

VMWare 3.5

QLOGIC 4Gbps

RDM disk with assigned wwpn

Cisco Fabric MDS 9513

Release 4.1(1b)

NPIV ENABLE

Can some one help me?

Regards

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December 4th, 2009 11:00

ECC guides mention that you have to use RDM devices on system that will be loaded with storage agent so if understand that correctly for things that will be issuing low level SCSI commands you have to use pRDM and not vRDM devices. It will actually show up as a device with symmetrix identifier. Is that what you were thinking ?

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December 3rd, 2009 07:00

Welcome to the forums samus10. I hope you have a good time with us and that we can learn smoething from and you from us . Make sure to introduce yourself ni the coffee corner.

About the virtual wwpn's.... hmmmm, I can't remember anyone asking this question and so far I haven't had a need for giving VM's their own wwpn's, so I'm very interested in how this discussion will continue

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December 3rd, 2009 08:00

Did you assign the WWN to the VM at time of creation or to an existing VM. I think that the WWN adds/changes to a VM need to be done with the VM powered off and that the WWNs will register with the fabric at boot time for the VM.

EDIT: Saw that you already mentioned the type of HBA. Removed question about HBA.

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December 3rd, 2009 09:00

Yes, I assign the WWN at time of creation but wen I start the VM I don't see any new entry in the switch.

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December 3rd, 2009 11:00

If after NPIV has been enabled on the switch, WWPNs have been assigned to the VM, the VM has been rebooted, and those WWPNs do not show up on the switch (show flogi database) then I would call support. There is pretty thin documentation in the Cisco FM and CLI guides on NPIV beyond how to enable it, and even less documentation on troubleshooting it.

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December 3rd, 2009 11:00

thanks for your post, I will open a case with support.


Regards

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December 4th, 2009 08:00

Please post back here if you get an answer from support. I am curious about this as well and would like to know what the resolution is.

Out of curiousity, what is your reason for implementing NPIV? Just wondering what you need it for that a standard VM with RDM mapping did not provide?

Thanks,

Aran

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December 4th, 2009 08:00

The thing is that the VM server is for ECC console and I need direct connection to the symmectrix for the application.

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December 4th, 2009 09:00

RDM device would have provided that "native" connectivity so ECC/symcli can see the array

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December 4th, 2009 09:00

Would an pRDM work as a gatekeeper for symcli? How would symcli know that a pRDM device is from the sym and can be used to communicate with the array?

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December 4th, 2009 12:00

same here, we had ECC 5.2 SP4 which i never used as it was dog slow and not reliable so i kind of forgot about it but now i want to resirect it and use it for Performance Manager and alerting, also play around with StorageScope.  I am actually going over prep documentation for 6.1 as we speak

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December 4th, 2009 12:00

Yes, that is what I was wondering, if a pRDM of a Sym device would appear to the symcli as actually a device from a sym for use in SCSI communications. Have you tested this?

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December 4th, 2009 12:00

Well since we've completely hijacked this thread...


Yes I do have ECC and it is running on a physical box along with RM. I have been wanting to put it on it's own dedicated server because it is a pain to upgrade RM and SE on a box already running ECC. I really don't use ECC much, I mostly use it for the sym alerts and performance manager. Everything else I use the symcli or SMC.

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December 4th, 2009 12:00

i have not tested this but when i was contemplating whether to install ECC 6.1 in VMware vs Physical box i stumbled upon this solution emc186684, then ECC planning and installation guide confirmed the same RDM requirement. Do you have ECC in your shop ?

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December 18th, 2009 07:00

Thank for the helpful post, I will go with RDM and not with NPIV.  I open a case with support and the only ting he sees is that he can see the wwpn and close the case.
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