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March 18th, 2020 18:00

Aurora R9, has 8X PCIe slots?

After finding this out they want a 600 dollar restocking fee to return it plus shipping!

What are my options?? Strip down my machine day 1 and save money? I will even have to pay for another copy of Windows to do this?

I would much rather fix their horrible design then give them a free 600 dollars!

Can someone recommend an appropriate top of the line motherboard and case to fix this mess? I need a functioning performance system that works properly and allows for 2080 RTX Ti SLI with a i9-9900 KS processor and 2933 MHZ ram.

 

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March 18th, 2020 19:00

The online Aurora R9 User's Guide PDF clearly shows "X8 speed only" on pages 8 and 9 =

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@BubbyDog   Can someone recommend an appropriate top of the line motherboard and case to fix this mess?

motherboard 

case 

 

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March 18th, 2020 19:00

WOW! Thank you for this Dell630i!! I was feeling sick to my stomach but after seeing these parts I am feeling a little better.

I am not a tech could you verify this motherboard works with this 2933 ram and i9-9900 ks chip please.

I guess motherboards went way up in price since my last build! But it looks like it is worth it!

That case holds 2 separate complete systems? I will need 2 seperate power supplies to setup a dual system? Wild! It is very nice!

I will need a 1000 watt power supply for 2080 RTX Ti SLI? Recommendation please? (The last 2 were amazing)

Any other components you can suggest? Probably need a stand alone water cooling system? Is the Aurora R9 water cooling system part of the case?

Thank you very much for the help.

This is my parts list lol sigh..

 

QuantityItem NumberDescription 

1

210-ASRB

Alienware Aurora R9

 

1

801-1540

Onsite/In-Home Service After Remote Diagnosis, 1 Year

 

1

389-DQYG

Regulatory Label

 

1

340-CNJH

Shipping Material

 

1

321-BEVY

Dark Side of the Moon chassis with High-Performance CPU Liquid Cooling and 850W Power Supply

 

1

490-BFHD

NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 2080 Ti 11GB GDDR6 (OC Ready)

 

1

338-BUZR

9th Gen Intel Core i9 9900KS (8-Core, 16MB Cache, OC up to 5.0GHz across all cores)

 

1

801-1493

Dell Limited Hardware Warranty Initial Year

 

1

827-1285

No Monthly Subscription

 

1

332-1530

Dell.com Order

 

1

450-AAGO

US Power Cord

 

1

634-BVPK

Adobe Photoshop Elements 2020 & Premiere Elements 2020 Bundle

 

1

817-BBBP

None Required

 

1

658-BCSB

Microsoft(R) Office 30 Days Trial

 

1

800-BBEV

Thank you for Choosing Dell

 

1

658-BCUO

Additional Software

 

1

340-CKVO

Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 Processor Label

 

1

340-AGIK

Safety/Environment and Regulatory Guide (English/French Multi-language)

 

1

555-BFEI

Wireless Driver for Killer 1650 Card

 

1

817-BBBB

Custom Configuration

 

1

570-AACN

Alienware Mouse Is Not Included

 

1

580-ABUI

Keyboard Not Included

 

1

555-BFBC

Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.0

 

1

400-BFWL

2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage)

 

1

370-ADVZ

64GB Dual Channel HyperX(TM) FURY DDR4 XMP at 2933MHz

 

1

320-BCXT

Dark Side of the Moon

 

1

619-ANUF

Windows 10 Pro, 64bit English

 

 

 

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March 18th, 2020 20:00

LOL nice @Anonymous , but you should also mention that the MSI motherboard you linked isn't compatible with the 9900ks.  I wanted to insert an emoticon here but I can't figure out how to do it with this limited android setting.

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March 18th, 2020 20:00

@r72019 the MSI motherboard you linked isn't compatible with the 9900ks

The i9-9900KS processor supports one PCIe 16X configuration

PCI Express Configurations
Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
Max # of PCI Express Lanes 16
 
what will that do for dual RTX 2080Ti ?

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March 18th, 2020 20:00

When there are two x16 slots, the top x16 lane would usually use the 16 pcie lanes direct to the CPU.  In addition to the CPU's pcie lanes, the z370 chipset supplies up to an additional 24 more PCIE lanes (so 40 total).  Those would usually power the bottom x16 plus whatever additional pcie slots are on the motherboard.  

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March 18th, 2020 21:00

@r72019   In addition to the CPU's pcie lanes, the z370 chipset supplies up to an additional 24 more PCIE lanes (so 40 total).

OK, thanks!

Here are your emoticons   

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March 19th, 2020 10:00

@BubbyDog   I am not a tech could you verify this motherboard works with this 2933 ram and i9-9900 ks chip please

No. The MSI Creator has the X299 chip set and a 2066 CPU socket. This is for the Gen 10 Intel processors (i9-10980XE for example). There is also an AMD version for Ryzen Threadripper processors.

That case holds 2 separate complete systems? I will need 2 seperate power supplies to setup a dual system?

Yes, you would need two power supplies. Two systems is an option, not a requirement.

Probably need a stand alone water cooling system? Is the Aurora R9 water cooling system part of the case?

An open loop liquid system is not required, but they are a lot of fun. It would require some advance research on your part. The Aurora R9 has an All-In-One 'closed' liquid cooling system for the CPU only. It is not part of the case, but the case is designed with a mounting cage for the radiator and fan(s).

I will need a 1000 watt power supply for 2080 RTX Ti SLI? Recommendation please?

If you are even considering a case like the Obsidian 1000D, or anything similar to that, and you are considering running open liquid loop(s) for cooling, the PSU will be a small increment of the total cost, so you might as well go big.    AX 1600i 

Note that the PSU linked above would not even fit inside the Aurora R9 case, or many other nano-case formats, so that is why you would need to do the aforementioned advance research, so that all of your components will synchronize together.

I believe this motherboard would work with your processor  MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC   but you should confirm that prior to purchase.

 

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March 19th, 2020 13:00

It's amazing @BubbyDog even managed to snag a system that comes with 9900KS. There's no decently priced boxed retail version currently. I'm just helping a friend look for one. 

Anyway, you've gone down the wrong path for 9900KS + 2080 Ti SLI. The Aurora chassis isn't made for this so one of those mega case like what @Anonymous says good morning to everyday should be a start point. Here are my suggestions for a souped up system like this assuming you're keeping your 9900KS, 1x 2080 Ti, RAM and storage devices that shipped with your system:

Case - Anything @Anonymous suggests because if it's big enough for him, it's big enough for anybody.

Motherboard - https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z390-GODLIKE or https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XI-FORMULA/

EDIT: I just pasted the most expensive Z390 from 2 main vendors. Going one level down doesn't hurt much and you pay about 1/3 the price. FYI, my MEG ACE is second to the MEG GODLIKE and I got it for $180 after rebate.

Second Graphics Card for SLI - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2080-ti/

PSU - https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/axi-series-config/p/CP-9020087-NA

Cooling: https://www.nzxt.com/product-overview/kraken - Get 1x 360mm for CPU, and 2x 240mm for each GPU.

Cooling: https://www.nzxt.com/products/kraken-g12-white - Get 2x to slap on the 240mm AIO on each of your 250W TDP nuclear plants by NVIDIA.

Cables (in case you don't like ugly cables from PSU) - https://cablemod.com/

Tip:

For NVLINK, lurk around EVGA's B-stock page every Wednesday. You can get a nice EVGA NVLINK bridge for ~$20. It's B-stock but hey, it's just a bridge.

For Win10, Egg shop gives out "promos" every week or two. $95-$99 pre-tax should be what you expect to pay.

I would've given you a long lecture on SLI but with NVIDIA cancelling announcement on 30x0 Ampere series, 2080 Ti SLI is probably the best money can buy now. BUT...

You have in your hands a reference board 2080 Ti. It's not the least but it isn't the best too. There are 2 tiers of custom PCB 2080 Ti above: the FTW3/ Strix OC class, and the K|NGP|N/ Galax unlimited class. So if you really need the craziest ultra setting out there: 2x K|NGP|Ns. Do it. You might even get free t-shirt from EVGA. 

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March 19th, 2020 13:00


@GTS81 wrote:

It's amazing @BubbyDog even managed to snag a system that comes with 9900KS. There's no decently priced boxed retail version currently. I'm just helping a friend look for one. 


I thought the 9900KS for 9th gen, was like the 8086K for 8th gen.  A limited production chip.  So once the retail stock is sold, the only remaining option to pay the flipper surcharge. 

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March 19th, 2020 13:00

@GTS81   @r72019   Case - Anything @Dell630i suggests

LOL . . . all seriousness aside, @BubbyDog  seems to have been hit by the 'WOW factor' that comes with the Obsidian 1000D, as we all were. For a good quality/performance build, the case does not necessarily have to be that ginormous. 

This is the case I am currently modding:  Cooler Master Cosmos C700M 

This is a link to @GTS81 current mod, from which much can be learned  Orange Julius 

There are a lot of very nice cases available. The important thing is to choose a case that is best suited for your build design, and for the other components in your build.  Much advanced research is needed, or you will be re-doing, re-spending, and re-doing again (like me). Some of that 're-do' cannot be avoided, unless you are an expert modder (which I am not). But a good plan will save a lot of time and

 

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March 19th, 2020 22:00

I still haven't figured out how to rotate that photo. 

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March 19th, 2020 22:00

The Obsidian 1000D is BIG: 

 

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March 20th, 2020 09:00

click Paint

lick rotate.

why make this hard.

post the exact motherboard full DELL p/n of board first or answers can be very wrong.

once we remove all this silly plastic junk we see there is a real case inside and wild PSU. who knows what.

the case is  metal faraday cage, for RFI blockage.

nobody on the internet Google has deeper facts for sure on MOBO REAL SPEC.

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March 20th, 2020 10:00

@r72019    The Obsidian 1000D is BIG: 

Yes. Recall my comparison to the pseudo-Alien.

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March 20th, 2020 10:00

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