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January 11th, 2024 23:12

Will the 5820 bios support the new RTX4070 Super/RTX4070Ti Super?

Hi Community

I have to find a replacement for my Quadro RTX4000 which has recently failed (black screen - no boot possible).

I know the 5820 already supports the RTX3080 and RTX3090.

Does anyone know if the bios support will extend to include the original RTX4070, or the newer RTX 4070 Super and RTX4070ti Super? Thanks.

I have ruled out the RTX4060 and RTX4060ti as they are an 8bit design.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Many thanks.

Brad

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January 12th, 2024 00:06

5820 is c/w 4070 and 4070 ti

 see user benchmark 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder?searchTerm=Precision%205820%20Tower%204070

5820 is also c/w 4060 and 4060 ti

https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder?searchTerm=Precision%205820%20Tower%204060

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January 12th, 2024 03:16

Yes, the Precision 5820 can support both of RTX 4070/4070 TI.  Dell latest system supported graphics driver was released with version 31.0.15.4609, A00.  The driver supports the following graphics cards:

NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050/1060
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650/1650 Super/1660/1660 Super/1660 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SI/2060 Super/2070/2070 Super/2080/2080 Super/2080 Super LC/2080 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050/3060/3060 Ti/3070/3070 Ti/3080/3080 Ti/3090/3090 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060/4060 Ti/4070/4070 Ti/4080/4090

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January 15th, 2024 07:11

I had outfitted a 5820 with RTX 3080 for someone and despite more in power requirement and less in performance comparing to an RTX 4070, the system could chewed anything throwing at it easily.  From Creative Cloud to Autodesk Maya, user was so happy with the system performance.  

But, note that the CPU and RAM are playing important roles as well.  For GPU intensive requirements, an RTX 4070 should work well for you in handling Corel and video editing apps.

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January 12th, 2024 08:54

@redxps630​ 

Thanks for posting that link.  Much appreciated.

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January 12th, 2024 08:59

@Chino de Oro​ 

Thanks for your help and it now means I can consider the RTX4070 and RTX4070ti.  You have also helped me realise I need to wait for the Dell driver update after the newer SUPER version cards are released.

I had previously thought the BIOS needed to support the GPU, but you have now directed my attention to the Graphics Driver.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Much appreciated.

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January 12th, 2024 22:27

As a continuation of this post regarding the Nvidia RTX4070 series graphics cards, can I ask if anyone on the Forum has a 5820 and experience of using the RTX4070 or 4070ti? Thanks.

My personal interest is in how well the RTX 4070 cards would be for multi display use in creative work using software such as Corel Painter and graphics in CorelDRAW, plus video editing and upscale processing? Hope you can help.

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January 15th, 2024 12:36

@Chino de Oro​ 

Thank you.  That is very helpful to know. My system is just over 4 years old and has the Xeon-W2145 processor with 32Gb RAM. I also achieve very good performance from the PCIE Ultraspeed NVME Quad drive using M2 SSDs.  My userbenchmark scores were good with the Quadro RTX 4000, so I feel confident, based on your comments, to wait for the RTX 4070 Super - as the UK price is close to the current RTX 4070 price.  Thanks again.

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January 16th, 2024 15:44

BIOS support is not too relevant. Most important is that your power supply supports the wattage of your gaming GPU and that the gaming GPU physically fits into the chassis. Many gaming graphics cards are huge nowadays and may not physically fit in your computer.

I'm using the RTX 3070 Founders Edition in my Precision 5820 and it works great.

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January 16th, 2024 19:48

@TheQuickFox​ 

I do now appreciate the graphics driver is more relevant than the bios.  Thanks for sharing your experience with the RTX 3070.

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January 28th, 2024 18:24

RTX 4070 Update 28th January 2024

I was very impressed with the figures in the TechUp review of RTX4070 Supers from the different manufacturers.  The Gigabyte AORUS RTX 4070 Super Master seemed very good given the running temperature, % performance above the Founders Edition and the noise level.  Unfortunately, this card is massive: 342mm length, 153mm height and 71mm width (3 slots wide).  Measuring inside the 5820 shows the maximum space for a card in one of the two 300w PCIE slots is 300mm length x 120mm height x 50mm width (My own measurements).  So for anyone interested in this GPU, it won’t fit, even though the power supply is big enough.  Hope that helps someone.

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January 28th, 2024 20:17

Yes, that site is very resourceful and has excellent database for GPU information.

Just want to add, certain GPU cards could depressed the temps cables and connectors when being installed on PCIe x16 slot 2.  If that happened, it should be moved and installed on PCIe x16 slot 4.

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January 28th, 2024 23:08

@Chino de Oro​ 

Thanks again. It does look like the Zotak RTX 4070 Super Trinity Black cards are both a possible fit with an height of 119mm.  Even the quite short ASUS Dual RTX4070 Super has a height of 134mm, despite being just 267mm long.  I currently have my Ultraspeed card in slot 2 and my graphics card in slot 4.  Do you have any preference for the PCIE settings in the bios? I considered giving more bandwidth to slots 2 & 4 rather than a balance across all slots.  I would be interested to hear your views. Thanks.

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January 29th, 2024 00:32

If you are referring to PCIe bus allocation settings, it will depend on if a thunderbolt card is being used.  Otherwise, select option 1.  That would take from slot 1 and increase bus numbers to slot 2 and slot 4.

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January 29th, 2024 08:49

@Chino de Oro​ 

Thank you.  I do not have a thunderbolt card so option 1 is definitely the best for me as you suggested - giving the greatest link speed to my graphics card in slot 4 and secondly, to my Ultraspeed Quad NVME drives in slot 2. 

Do you have an opinion on whether I could remove the PCIE holder near the front system fan to allow a greater length of graphics card? My Quadro RTX4000 had the metal fin extending out the back to locate in the holder, but the graphics cards I am considering don’t have that feature.

Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

Ps: I would still opt for a 10mm clearance between the graphics card and front system fan.  Is that OK in your opinion? 

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January 29th, 2024 09:23

If your preferred graphics card is oversized in length, you can remove the GPU holder by pressing the blue latch.  It will expose the front fan.  If the card is oversized in height, you can knock out the rivets and remove the top GPU stabilizer bar.

But, you will need to secure the graphics card with an aftermarket GPU brace support bracket.  Also, it's good idea to keep some clearance from the front fan.

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