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Optiplex 7010 SFF Compatible with Quadro P400 ?
As Quadro P400 has 30w and is 145 mm length, so potenttialy it is a good fit to do a great upgrade to 7010 SFF.
My question is Dell quadro p400 partnumber 490-BDZY will work on the 7010 SFF ?
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=hied&cs=65&sku=490-BDZY
Or will I have to buy from PNY which should be more generic ?
http://www.pny.eu/consumer/explore-all-products/nvidia-quadro/895-nvidia-quadro-p400
Anyone has one of these GPUs cards work and running on a Dell 7010 SFF ?
Thanks for your attention.
Kind regards
rmopf2010
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March 3rd, 2019 03:00
PNY Quadro P400 wroks great on Dell 7010 SFF,
if you want video editing the most demanding 4K HEVC/h265 you have a good value upgrade Quadro P400
Working great ! Pitty that Question id Dell Quadro P400 Also worked they are cheaper than Generic PNY
Converting 4k h264 to 4k hevc
Cpu runs at ~17% while GPu at 100%, PC still has lot of power to work in another tasks
savvy2
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February 7th, 2019 09:00
OP , a non HP answer
first off the PNY draws only 30watts, the PCI-exp slots most can handler 95w max cards
so using say a Nvidia GTX-650 that **bleep** 30amps or 360watts all by it self is hopeless, (see my using extremes?) my new GTX1050 uses less than 95watts (2018 new)
the GTX uses a huge 600w PSU or no go.
you never said what OS, so what OS and drivers you run is your call.
The power budget in that SFF is not published, 180w, minus real load = margin. (extra)
I'd say stick with the correct Dell cards, with only 180watts to play with.
I guess this is pre buy question and not from some shop with piles of cards to try?
what is the need for new card, unstated, tell what fails now, need 3d for engineering graphics or gaming or?
the P400 is listed at 30watts total max power . so is low.
ok good luck.
Mary G
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February 7th, 2019 09:00
Your model has a very small 180w power supply that can't handle that card. A 300w psu is usually the minimum requirement. This is from the sales page for SFF model
rmopf2010
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February 7th, 2019 15:00
Thanks for having the time to answer my question,
But Dell Optiplex 7010 has a 240W PSU, and It's PCIe16 connector on the Motherboard can handle 50W to the card inserted not needing aditional power from PSU, as seen in the pics.
So Quadro P400 (30W) or even Quadro P600 (40W) or Quadro P620 (40W) all of them are viable options for who like me don't want to throw their 7010 "under the bus", Still good and viable PCs with I5 or I7.
The 7010 is (3gen Core I)
Only after (7gen Core I) the Intel CPU's have ENCODE/DECODE (h265 aka HEVC aka 4K codec) by hardware !!!!!!!!!
So if you buy a Quadro P400/P600/P620 you will have this made by Hardware which is HUGE faster !!!!
Piece of Advise for 7010 owners!! if you don't need ENCODE HEVC and want some good gaming, You have this new chip from nVidia GT1030 (30W) awesome, I have one in another 7010 of mine !!! and it only costs about 90$ don't buy the DDR version (much) worse
https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/Optiplex-7010-SFF-GPU-upgrade/td-p/6112906
But only decodes by HW of h265/HEVC !
If you want to edit cut and produce your own movies in 4K you will need both functions encode/decode.
So why was I asking which cards works ?
Well it's hard !
Quadro cards are BIOS locked !
Dell Quadro P400 partnumber 490-BDZY only works on Dell, period.
Question will it work on 7010 ? who knows ? only having one and testing. This Dell version is 30~40€ cheaper than PNY version
Will PNY Quadro P400 version work on 7010 who knows ? you don't know it it's BIOS locked for ancient HW !
This type of professional HW are strange
One curiosity Quadro P400/P600/P620 GPUs GTX1050 are from the same code type = GP107
Once again thanks for your attention
rmopf2010
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February 7th, 2019 15:00
Thanks for answering, but 7010 SFF PSU info is not acurate,
See my previous answer !
Da_Vinman
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February 8th, 2019 13:00
First off, what are you going to be using the GPU for, as the Quadro is a professional graphics card for use with business and graphics programs. If you try to game on this, even low-end, you'll be extremely disappointed and today's integrated 8- and 9-series GPUs are better.
If this is more a consumer-level upgrade, let us know as there are several low-power NVIDIA and AMD graphics cards that will work even in Optiplex SFF systems.
rmopf2010
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February 9th, 2019 04:00
It's not for gaming, alas if you've read the whole thread you will have noticed I recommend a good cheap gaming card the new GT1030 which works fine at the 7010 SFF.
I want a good 4K video editing card which can do encode/decode by hardware (gt1030 only does decode)
all consumer level cards that do encode/decode hevc/h265 consume 75w which dell 7010 SFF can't handle.
The only ones who do this under the 50w from 7010sff board are the quadros P400 P600 P620.
The issue is what I've pointed out in another response is BIOS lock from these pro-cards that don't run in every case.
Please read the whole thread before replying.
Thanks for your attention.
Kind regards
Plato1960
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February 9th, 2019 04:00
I'm going to share my experience adding a video card to my 780 SFF with you, it may help you. My 780 is a Intel Core Duo @ 3.0. I added a sata ssd, and doubled the ram. Next was to add a MSI GeForce GT 710 1 gb, has no fan just large heat sink. My objective was for 2k resolution to my 27" Acer monitor, NO gaming. I do photo editing, and enjoy a desktop with high resolution. Anyway going in the MSI box min recommendations was min 20 amp on the PS 12 volt rail. The 240 watt PS in my 780 was 17A max on its 12 V rail as indicated on its label. So after install the video performance was great, but a couple times a day the video driver would fail, then recover. I tried many recommended solutions including registry edits and new drivers, but no joy. In the end the driver failures got worse and would require a re-boot (machine locked up). So I removed the card and went back to 1440 max resolution. I will be selling my 780 btw, purchased a new base Inspiron 3670 mini tower Win 10 (love it) @ Christmas time.
Checking the watt draw of my card MSI GT 710 specs is 19 watts. Your proposed Quadro (2gb with a large cooling fan) specs is 30 watts. I say you have a very low probability in success with the Quadro and your Dell oem PS in the SFF. I'd be amazed if it even booted up. Link to your proposed Quadro video card specs: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA22F7AH6363&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-Tech+For+Less-_-Video+Cards+-+Workstation-_-9SIA22F7AH6363&gclid=Cj0KCQiAkfriBRD1ARIsAASKsQKQ6WO0lm_p3br-JFUDZZh2HlyotvQsm109Y7_BLl-42t0F4kLEwVEaAnuYEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Da_Vinman
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February 9th, 2019 08:00
Alas, it's a lot easier to just tell people what the card is for, than hoping we can divine some hidden meaning from a couple of off-the-cuff mentions of a GeForce card, then trying to act superior when we don't "break the code".
rmopf2010
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February 9th, 2019 09:00
Sorry Pal,
Video 4K video editing/producing, 7010 generation 3rd intel CPUs only have h264 till fullHD
If you want to edit/produce 4k videos using h264 or h265/HEVC you'll need extra vitamins in that 7010 SFF
Because of power availabe (PCIex16 blue slot 50W) the ones are Quadros P400, P600, P620 but I've told in earlier response, These type of cards have many BIOS locks.
Also there's DELL P400 versions for some Precision, I know they are locked to DELL Hardware, that's for sure, but will they run on 7010 ? for example
Or even PNY generic will be running on old HW?
Just asking who have already tried one on 7010 SFF ? PNY version or DELL version part number 490-BDZY
Thanks a lot for taking the time for replying
Kind regards
vmasip
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June 4th, 2020 02:00
Man,I don't see a SFF tower in the picture..
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GT 1030 is 40W card
works fine
8CCF1 is OEM DELL VERSION OF THE CARD and does not come with low profile bracket. This is what ships with many dell models.
Retail msi unit comes with both full height and low profile mounting bracket.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/msi-gt-1030-2g-lp-oc-graphic-card-2-gb-gddr5-pcie-30-x16-low-profile-hdmi-displayport/apd/aa362018/graphic-video-cards
This means it fits and works in ALL MODELS except USFF.
MT DT SFF but not USFF or Micro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y32mBdZHJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHTMZHcFaJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ctfvq9QGTI
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/accessories/apd/aa362018
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/accessories/apd/A9763687
For Non Dell video cards WILL HAVE to turn SECURE BOOT OFF. When installing an after-market graphics card into a Windows PC with UEFI secure boot enabled, the system may not boot. This is true for ANY PC not just Dell.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3156
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June 4th, 2020 05:00
50W is only for the BLUE primary video X16 slot.
The other slot is X16 connector (BLACK) but is only an X4 slot so its limited to 25W.
Using a 40W card in the BLACK slot will be a problem.
https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/optiplex_7010_technical_guidebook.pdf
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June 4th, 2020 05:00
Per @DELL-Chris M
The Dell OEM ECS 8CCF1 GeForce GT 1030 comes in the following models.
Vostro 3660/3667/3668/3669/3670
Inspiron 3668/3670/5676
XPS 8920/8930
Non Dell Cards require Secure Boot OFF in Bios.
When installing an after-market graphics card into a Windows PC with UEFI secure boot enabled, the system may not boot. This is true for ANY PC not just Dell.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3156
Dell OEM full height but short PCI-E video cards work
Cards other than the 1030 require OPTIONAL 365w power supply.
365w PSU =
7VK45 365w, Huntkey
T1M43 365w, Delta
DVP9W Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, 4GB, 75w
36V90 Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060, 3GB, 120w
24K8H Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050, 2GB 75w
8CCF1 Nvidia GeForce GT 1030, 30w
1MPR3 AMD R9-360 2GB, 75w
24K8H Nvidia GTX 1050 2GB, 75w