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September 2nd, 2015 14:00

Adding new disks in the PS4100

Hello,

I have a PS4100 with 12 600GB disks in RAID-50 (4.18TB), and two discs are spare.

I want to expand more 1TB and need to know if I can buy more disks and adding the existing Pool.

Or I have to buy 3 more disks to a RAID-5?

After placing the new disc, the total space of the pool will be available for expansion?

Thank you.

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September 3rd, 2015 10:00

Hello,

 You can't run different RAID levels on the same array member.  Once you set the RAID policy only that policy is possible on that physical member.  You also can't just add a few drives to expand current RAID set.  If you array is 1/2 populated, the upgrade option is only to add another 12 drives of the same size type.  If you use larger drives, only the capacity of the smallest disk will be used. 

The drives also must be purchased from Dell, and specifically for the EQL SANs.  Generic drives won't work.

Regards,

Don

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October 8th, 2015 19:00

Hello, 

During the firmware update itself there is no interruption.   When you do the restart/failover there will be a short period where the servers will be disconnected and reconnect back automatically.  That's the reason you extend the disk timeout to 60 seconds.  This allows the servers to handle this interruption. 

 During the new RAIDset initialization there is no impact to the volumes or servers.  

Regards, 

 Don 

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September 3rd, 2015 11:00

You are very welcome.  Glad to be of service.

Don

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September 3rd, 2015 11:00

Don,

It was what we expected response.

thank you.

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October 7th, 2015 12:00

Hello,

I already bought the disc and need to do to expansion.

What is the procedure to increase my array, after entering the new disks in drawers?

Simply put discs in drawers that they will be included in the array member?

PS: You're asking to update the firmware. I do before or after entering the new disks?

Thank you.

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October 7th, 2015 13:00

Hello Sandro, 

 There's a special process on arrays like the 4100 that create multiple RAIDsets in the single chassis when you have upgrade drives that are larger than the original.  I assume they are the same speed correct?  If not then you can not mix speeds in the same chassis.  

My suggestion is opening a support case and they will work with you to correctly get the new larger drivers properly added to the member. 

Re: firmware.  Looking over this thread I don't see where I talked about firmware.  It's always best to run current firmware.   What firmware are you currently running? 

Regards, 

Don 

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October 7th, 2015 14:00

Hello,

it seems that is simple, then.

I'll put 12 discs the way you directed. (Partly, then one by one'll inserting completely).

When I enter the group manager, my MEMBER today appears disk 12-23 empty, will be allocated with these new discs.

Today the total capacity is 4.18TB with 12 disks.

After finishing the automatic storage process, this capacity will increase to 8.36TB about, right?

My storage:
-Storage Array Firmware V6.0.7 (R367725)
-RAID50 / (10) Disks 558.91GB / (2) Spares / 1KRPM
-Total Gross: 4.18TB
-Total Useful: 3.56TB

Regarding the firmware update, should I do after this process of adding disks, or before adding the disks?

I will continue using the two spares discs, or I'll have to set new 2 spares discs for this new set of disks?

Thank you.

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October 7th, 2015 14:00

Hello,

yes, they will be identical disks of the same capacity speed.

I understood that with the inclusion of more 12 identical disks I will not need to create a new set array.

I bought exactly the same amount that currently have.

Excuse me. I quoted the firmware because I was told that there is a process that when updated firmware, it will drill the array automatically.

Thank you.

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October 7th, 2015 14:00

Sorry in re-reading the thread I thought you got 1TB drives. 

 For better performance the 4100 creates RAIDset for each set of 12 drives.  So when you add in the other 12 the array will create a new RAIDset for them using the already defined RAID type. 

 So the process is easy.  Put the new drives in the slots but don't seat them fully in the slots.  Leave them out a 1/4 inch or so.  Once all the drives are staged, then you can seat them one at a time, one right after the next w/o pausing between them.   Once they are all fully seated the array will wait a minute or so then start to build the new RAIDset.   Once that's finished, the new space will be available to that array.  Then the data will be redistributed to the new set of drives. 

 Sorry I'm not sure what you mean by "drill the array"?    

 What firmware are you running now?   

Regards, 

Don 

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October 7th, 2015 14:00

Thanks you very much 

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October 7th, 2015 15:00

Hello, 

Re: Firmware update.  That's up to you, but you won't be able to do it afterwards until the RAID construction completes.  if you're taking an outage I would do the firmware upgrade first. 

re: 6.0.x.  This version stream no longer gets updates, so I would suggest you upgrade to at least the current 7.1.x firmware.   Which you can do in one step.  If you decide to go to 8.x, then you first have to install 7.x, restart, then you can install 8.x. 

re: Spares.  Spares in this case are global to the chassis.  The number of spares is determined by RAID type. 

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October 7th, 2015 16:00

Hello,


perfect.


I believe I did.


After inserting the disc, the storage will automatically perform the process of RAIDset by adding new disks in the empty slot and the ability of my pool-01 storage appear more capable to use.


The spares will continue to be the two current.


Regarding the firmaware, I will download the version 7 and 8. And I performed the update in sequence, before adding the disks.


I am sure the work to be done?


Thank you.

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October 8th, 2015 07:00

Hello, 

That sounds great.  

Don 

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October 8th, 2015 14:00

Hello,

Now came the new hard disks!

As to complement.

When you say:

- Leave Them OUT A 1/4 inch or so.

- Once all the drives are staged, Then you can seat Them one at a time, one right after the next w / o pausing between Them.

I understood:

- Place almost entire inside, and a part outward;

- Will occur an automatic scanning process, that is, I hope a little after putting all of that position;

- Fit the rest of the disc is out;

- The docking sequence is to start on the right and go into place the other;

Sorry for the English translation.

Thank you.

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