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Rail kit and Brocade 300DS mount problem
We have problems with mounting EMC-Brocade DS-308 FC switch to 19 inch rack.
there are
1. Rack APC 19"
2. FC Switch Brocade DS-300B-8G
3. Rail kit DSBRLKT-B
4. Guide for Installation of Switches Into Third-Party Racks" P/N 300-000-267
After installing left and right rails to rack switch with mount slide rial fall down out of rack unit. If secure the slide rail to rack rail with M3x8 sc_rew (page 22 figure 18) it help to keep FC switch. But in this case switch is not fixed strong and tight. It swings and hangs - slide rail looks bent down and to center. Slide rail assembled to FC switch does not parallel to each other.
Dimentions of 19" APC rack
- front plank between center of round-holes 465mm (metric)
- rear plank between center of round-holes 465mm (metric)
- depth between front and rear plank 738mm
DS-300 switch dimentions as to my mesure 430х307mm
As to my opinion slide rail bents because of switch case (width) is about 10-15mm smaller. Switch is toonarrow - this is why rear part (switch port side) of slide rails is narrow than front part. It is not goon to fix switch only with secure M3 pan head sc_rew. If somebody in future unscrew this one - switch will fall down. If head of the sc_rew is brouken because of flexural moment swith will fall down.
Did someone been in same mount problem??
P.S. S_C_R_E_W it is not a bad word to censorship it with *****
Sergey Kopylov
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May 9th, 2012 22:00
Thank you Aaron, this might be helpful, you are lucky than your EMC provider is good and responsible - not like mine. My EMC provider and official EMC department in my city sais it is all my problem and they dont; care. They said that rail kit DSBRLKT-B is only available for the switch. That didn't help at all.
I had to fix our customer problem without EMC.
I found coll solution how to fix the problem. I drill 2 or 3 new holes for each switch mountign brackets on back part. So my switches screwed to mounting brackets in back to front direction. Now it fits to 19' rail cabinet fine. it is very neatly and safe!
I do recomend to make 2 for 300DS switch (max 3 - depends on switch) new holes at each switch mounting brackets on back side and install switch in back to front direction. Switch will not fall dawn. It fits super-perfect if you drill new holes.
EMC or Brocade HAVE TO fix the rail kit so in can fit to any standart 19" cabinet.
Sergey Kopylov
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April 23rd, 2012 23:00
EMC tech are you going to answer??
AaronSmith1
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May 9th, 2012 13:00
I'm not an EMC tech, but a customer, and I had this exact problem. We also had an APC rack, same rail kit, same switch, everything. I went back and forth with EMC a few times, and they eventually sent me a different rail kit which worked much MUCH better and also included a front bezel, which the other rail kit did not. The part number on the box is 100-561-955 (ASSY, DS8BX/DS16BX/DS41) Maybe you can contact your EMC rep and have them send you one as well.
Sergey Kopylov
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May 16th, 2012 04:00
Aaron
Hello, again. I cannot find nothing with part number 100-561-955. Can you send me any additional information (photo, package photo. Really Google can' fing anything. Igave the part-number to our reginal EMC office and they cannot find it inside emc.
I'm really must be crazy helping emc to find right rail kit. Looks like it is world wide problem, but nobody cares.
AaronSmith1
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May 16th, 2012 05:00
That part number was on the outside of the box. BUT, looking at the installation guide there is a part number of 300-007-777. You could try that, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the part number for the GUIDE itself. It says it's a rail mount kit for the following systems: DS-8B2, DS-16B2/16B3 and DS-4100B. It's mounted in the cabinet now so I can't really take a photo of it. I'll contact my EMC reps here and see if they can get a part number for me.
AaronSmith1
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May 16th, 2012 12:00
I heard back from our reps, and they're saying that the part number for the second rail kit I was sent, the one that worked, is DSBRLKT-B and is what I was *supposed* to get the first time. However, they say they shipped the wrong item to me the first time. It's possible that the same thing happened to you. Maybe there was a snafu in their ordering/inventory system so that the wrong rail kit was being labeled as DSBRLKT-B? Not sure, but I'm afraid that's all I have for ya.
Sergey Kopylov
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May 16th, 2012 20:00
Thank you Aaron.
Yes. Wrong p/n of rail kit is DSBRLKT-B. May be it is not wrong part, but with this rails switch does not fit into rack.
My (for our customer) it was color labeled DSBRLKT-B and white sticker 100-652-504.
No, I don't think it is just worng label or wrong box, or right rials in wrong box. The label and the specification p/n are same. EMC sais it should be color sticker DSBRLKT-B. I think this is just wrong construction of rail.
See, save (fix) holes and screws are on back side. Heavy switch (the switch falls dawn itself), plus FC patch cords - all this pull switch dawn - all this on front side. Looks like switch is a little bit narrow. Such console (or cantilever) it not sustainable at all.
Well new holes work realy fine. The customer and I are satisfied.
But I really want to solve the problem for the future. The rail kit cost $210-220 - this should be enought to have GOOD rails without drilling new holes and any improvement.
maxl1
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September 9th, 2013 12:00
For anyone who gets this issue in the future, as I just got pinched, another rail kit part number is DSBRK40-FD-B, which is the rail kit made for EMC CX racks.
Sorry I don't know the 100-xxx-xxx number.
KoenVdE
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August 19th, 2014 07:00
the correct answer should not be to drill holes. if a customer pays more then 200$ for rails there should be no drilling needed.
The correct answer is to order:
DSBRK40-FD-B DSB SWITCH CLAR FIELD RCK KIT -B
these rails work great and do not need any drilling.