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January 28th, 2010 14:00

Dell Financing issues

Hello,

I bought a ~$1,000 laptop for my sister last Christmas. I took Delll because that is what we recommend at our company, and was rather ok with it.At the time of checkout, Dell offered a free interest 12 months financing option. I did not intend to finance the laptop, but, we decided to opt for it to smoothe the payments.

Since January (Dell built my laptop late, so my present did not end up making it for Chirstmas despite what the website said) I am paying every month the bill.

SUPRISE: on my January 2010 bill I just received I see an extra charge for $200 (20% of the original latpop price!).

Why? What Dell is doing is the following:

- You sign up for a 12 month interest free Financing

- They send you a bill that shows a "minimum payment" and has a sentence next to it "if you do not pay in full by end of promotion period, you will be charged fiannce charges".

Instead of sending you a bill for the deal you signed up for (12 months interest free), they send you a bill for something different ( a logner , interest full payment plan you never asked for), and you are left to figure out how much you should pay per month in otder to pay for the deal you selected. In my case, I jsut took the first bill, added to online banking automatic payment and thought I was done: This would have been the case if DFS was not a sneaky dollar extracting organization.

Sure, Dell is trying to cover themselves with the little sentence, but frankly to stay polite this is called misleading the customer. Instead of showing 2 payment option :

1- The main one the deal you sign up for (leading to a full payment in 12 months, no interest)

2- The second one a minimum payment that THEY proposed and you never wanted or asked for (but might be useful to some, why not an option in case you are hurting and want to pay in a longer term),

 

So, they do not indicate the amount: you should pay, WHY?

Because they are hoping that the majority of consumers, like me, will just pay the only amount that is on the bill and be caught into paying 20% extra for their laptop. Or maybe they assume every consumer is a CPA, will take the outstanding balance and divide it by the length of the promotion to figure out themselves exactly how many $$$ they should pay each month in order to get the deal they were induced into choosing by Dell in the first place?

After speaking with 3 people on Dell Finance Consumer services they gave me a rebate on the Finance charge, and despite my protests they basically admitted that it is misleading and they could have put the "real amount due for the deal I signed up", but still this is it !!!

I wish Dell Finance had learnt from all the misleading mortgage companies to be a bit more ethical, as misleading consumers on Finance cahrges can have very serious consequences as we have seen in the last 18 months....

Can somebody give me another explanation as to why doesn’t Dell print on their bills the amount I need to pay to get the promotional deal they proposed???

Apart from the BBB and consumer protection agencies, what is your recommendation to take the case to so they change their $$$ making sneaky polices?

Thanks

Julien

 

 

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January 28th, 2010 15:00

In terms of DFS, when I used them, i had the 12 months no interest and when I went over the 12 months, they just tacked on the interest to the total amount of the bill due... as for what you can do about it.. we can't really tell you cause dell will delete the posts..

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January 28th, 2010 16:00

I am glad to see I am not the only one!

To be honnest this is frankyly way over the line of Fraud in my book.

The user selects "12 months interest free promotion" and receives a bill for "36 months 18% interest you never asked for, with an option to pay in 12 months if you take the time to read the small font characters Dell has there to cover themselves and smart enough to figure out by yourslef what kidnof payment you should make to get the promotion you were offered in the first place".

I think the DFS offer should read: "DFS special offer:12 months free interest, assuming you are smart enough to avoid all the charges we will do our best to impsoe on you"!

Given the context of all  that happened with the bank adn sneaky/hidden mrotgage terms recently with the disastrous consequences we know, I am stunned Dell can get by (or promotes) this kind of practices.

The (clearly trained) answer was "You did not tkae the opportunity to pay the balance during the promotion period"!!!!!

Just unbeileivable.

For now I will ask IT to cancel our contrat with Dell. That will  be antoher 200 computers less a year, let's see if we get a call from the rep so I can explain to him ohow Dell treats tis customers....

Julien

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January 28th, 2010 17:00

Hi, Julien:

Sorry to hear about that. Sounds like an expensive lesson learned.

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January 28th, 2010 22:00

I certainly learned the lesson to not use Dell Financial Service and certainly did not get a good impression from Dell during this process.

But I would really be eager to hear form Dell on this issue.

How can this be legal to entice buyers to take up an attractive offer (12 months free interest) and then send them bill not stating what needs to be paid to get the deal you sign up for?

If this was a company invoicing another company, the CFO of the supplying company (dell in this case0 would already be in jail for fraud. But I guess Dell considers that sending wrong/misleading invoices to consumers and stealing 100$ here and there to their consumers is ok...

Please contact me if you had your own problems with DFS and would like to put together a common legal complaint.

Julien

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January 29th, 2010 05:00

Julien:

Seriously, you don't think companies like Dell don't understand consumer finance laws? Perhaps you're a consumer credit newbie, but I can assure you they've got this stuff figured out.

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January 21st, 2011 18:00


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January 21st, 2011 19:00

Well, the original post is over a year old, but I am curious as to how it turned out. Any input from the OP?

Like Osprey said, it is really a good life lesson about reading the details of finance agreements.....

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January 22nd, 2011 17:00

Dell does move posts if you speak regarding legal stuff and opinions.  Dell's board and they can do what they want.. I am surprised this board was brought back up over a year later lol.

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March 23rd, 2012 16:00

It sounds to me like you've not used much credit in the past and quite possibly can't do simple math.  Take your $1,000 divide it by 12 and if you weren't making payments of $83.34 a month then obviously it wouldn't be paid by the end of the 12 months and you'd incur interest.  Many companies will revert the interest back if you don't pay it off in time.  Sorry you had to learn a lesson the hard way but people not wanting to be responsible for their actions is what got our country in the recession it's in. 

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March 24th, 2012 05:00

 

 

It sounds to me like you've not used much credit in the past and quite possibly can't do simple math. 

 

 

 

As Barbie says, math is hard.

I'm certainly no CPA, but I've succeeded in avoiding interest charges for the dozens of interest-free offers I've taken advantage of (through Dell and others).

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March 24th, 2012 09:00

It is a sad statement about our society that people think it is acceptable to commit to something yet do not  even make an attempt to fully understand that commitment...

Obviously, this is not a Dell issue as there are similar complaints over at the Best Buy forums about HSBC.... I am guessing if I looked I could find similar complaints in many other places....

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July 2nd, 2012 11:00

Four years ago, I started paying my interest free financing from dell as well.  They started charging me interest after I made my first payment on a interest free payment.  Of course, I had them waived the charges and pay in full of what I owned so I do not have to deal with the    

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January 26th, 2018 05:00

Dell has been messing me around for the past 3 months. Supposed to take payments on the 20th but instead they have been dipping into my account whenever they feel like it...usually twice a month or more. I have now in 3 months incurred over $500 in NSF charges, cannot plate and insure my vehicle because they take money which was going to my monthly plates and my house insurance in which now I have none which is breach of my mortgage. 

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