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April 12th, 2014 15:00

Study Finds New PCs Loaded with Malware

A new study conducted by IDC and commissioned by Microsoft reveals some troubling statistics that illustrate the depths of the global malware and pirated software problem.

Perhaps most shocking:...  that nearly 46 percent of computers purchased from common distribution sources – such as computer specialty shops, resellers, and local markets – came with dangerous malware, including viruses, worms, Trojan horses, rootkits, and unwanted Adware.

http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2014/04/10/study-finds-new-pcs-loaded-with-malware/?newpcsmalware

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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/download/presskits/dcu/docs/idc_031814.pdf

 

 

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April 12th, 2014 16:00

Yes I could believe 46 percent,  in east Asia, Russia or developing countries. This is in no way representative of north America or western Europe.

Microsoft loves this study, as it is seriously hurt by pirated software in the Asia/Russia, where it is almost illegal to have legal software.

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April 12th, 2014 17:00

"I doubt MS would commision or publish... a study that examines the incidence of Junkware and PUPs that come pre-loaded from the mainstream vendors"

Actually, doing so would be beneficial to Microsoft's Stores, as it could enhance sales of their "Signature PCs" (no junkware included) http://www.microsoftstore.com/store?Action=ContentTheme&Locale=en_US&SiteID=msusa&ThemeID=33363200&pbPage=MicrosoftSignature

(which, by the way, includes several models/offerings by Dell)

 

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April 12th, 2014 17:00

This study essentially looks at the risks of getting malware when buying from basically untrustworthy sources, not from mainstream vendors such as Dell, Lenovo, etc.The relative risk under these circumstances in the USA is quoted as 31%. This does not surprise me.

I would be more interested in a study that examines the incidence of Junkware and PUPs that come pre-loaded from the mainstream vendors, but I doubt MS would commision or publish such a study. I suspect the incidence would approach 100%.

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April 12th, 2014 18:00

Unfortunately Microsoft Stores seems to only offer tablets and touchscreen computers in their Signature PCs, all of which seem to come with Win 8.

I still prefer desktops with keyboards, mice & Win 7.

Junkware, PUPs and trialware no doubt lower the upfront costs of a purchase. But frankly I'd be willing to pay a bit more not to have to deal with them.

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April 12th, 2014 22:00

"I still prefer desktops with keyboards, mice & Win 7"

I hear ya Joe! .

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April 15th, 2014 10:00

What gets me is many reputable companies insist on piggy backing PUPs during downloads, irritating having to keep an eye out for the add on check boxes; had one the other day install "Conduit" without any warning.
Which one was that?

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April 15th, 2014 10:00

"But frankly I'd be willing to pay a bit more not to have to deal with them."

Agree, as it does take a bit of knowledge and sometime to remove them. What gets me is many reputable companies insist on piggy backing PUPs during downloads, irritating having to keep an eye out for the add on check boxes; had one the other day install "Conduit" without any warning.

 

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April 15th, 2014 12:00

Joe had problems with this, and I had a remnant show up in Hitman Pro scans.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/virus-spyware/f/3522/p/19538493/20508878.aspx#20508878

This little program seems to get rid of it and some other undesired stuff as well.

http://adwcleaner.soft32.com/

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April 15th, 2014 14:00

pcmeiners:

I too would be interested in knowing which "reputable" company bundled Conduit with your download, and the website you downloaded it from.

Based on my experience, this is not a PUP, but a Positively Unwanted Program, that hijacks your browser, and resists removal. I required MBAM, AdwCleaner, and ESET online scanners to remove all traces of this pest.

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April 17th, 2014 09:00

One great source for "clean" downloads is https://ninite.com/

They offer clean (no bundled junkware) installers, which run without inundating you with NEXT> prompts (by installing programs in their default locations).

Most commonly-used programs are available there.

You can even "customize" your favorite programs into a "combined" installer... which can then be rerun at later dates, picking-up the most recent version of each of your specified programs.

 

 

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April 17th, 2014 09:00

These things are getting insidious. I started having problems with the Yahoo toolbar infecting IE, Chrome and Firefox (but not Opera). Used all the removal programs and vigorously cleaned the Registry of Yahoo and Conduit entries. I could not get this thing killed, it always came back. Finally realized the AVG free anti-virus program was installing toolbars. Uninstalled and replaced with free Avast and re-cleaned everything and am now almost toolbar free. Still get Bing appear as an alternate bar in Chrome, but it isn't a problem. It's getting hard to find a download helper site that doesn't try to PUP you to death. Going to the software's originator's site doesn't help in many cases, as they direct you to a PUP site for the download.

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April 20th, 2014 07:00

SourceForge was the source; now every time I need a file from there I will have my doubts. I consider Conduit definite malware, as it resists removal.

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April 20th, 2014 09:00

Duplicate post

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April 21st, 2014 02:00

SourceForge was the source; now every time I need a file from there I will have my doubts. I consider Conduit definite malware, as it resists removal.

SourceForge is now routinely bundling adware, the dodgy Ask Toolbar, and apparently now malware such as Conduit. I certainly would not use it to download anything. I usually download from the author's website if at all possible, or follow ky331's suggestion. Thanks for the feedback.

Some examples:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/11/image-editor-gimp-abandons-sourceforge-over-adware-wrapped-installers/
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/virus-spyware/f/3522/t/19516840.aspx

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April 21st, 2014 08:00

dalem29 I feel for you. Even when you go to the originators site you can be directed to one of these jerks. Several sites such as ninite are supposed to offer clean downloads. However not long ago I was hit with add-on offers from one of these. The money from these idiots is just too much to refuse. The one that really got me was AVG, which I will NEVER use again. I find that you need to go to the Registry to remove these vestiges even after uninstalling and using registry cleaners. I am very comfortable editing the registry and have never created a problem. You should always back up the registry before editing; I am not real careful about this, but still have never had a problem. Real problems can occur if these things infect a DLL file. If you delete it using anti-malware, the OS may not run. Supposedly if you leave them quarantined, the are safe, but the OS will still run. Never had to test this out.
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