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Inspiron G5-5090, CPU cooler?
Hi,
Normally, I build my own PC but I decided to go with a pre-built with DELL because the deal was too good to pass up. It just arrived on my doorstep, (a new Inspiron G5-5090 desktop) and everything seems to be in order. The only thing I noticed is that the CPU cooler pictured on this non-Dell website is different than the one I got.
I got a much cheaper one. I'm guessing this is normal but I just wanted to make sure since this is my first DELL. I assume the one pictured on the website is reserved for different CPU's. I have a i7-9700 (non-K) if that matters.
Thanks,
Willguy
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March 2nd, 2021 22:00
Hi Guys,
I know a lot of you are using the Noctua cpu cooler. Can I use a Cooler Master MasterAir MA620P or a Cooler Master 212 instead? The reason is I want the rgb fan it there. Same as the case fan, I would like to replace it with rgb fan but it's hard to find a 92mm rgb fan. Thanks.
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March 3rd, 2021 00:00
Sorry @Willguy ... I have no idea. Hopefully someone will have an answer for you.
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My CPU loves me ! I did the upgrade a couple of nights ago, but just finally got around to uploading my pics -> https://imgur.com/a/1VFK5H4 . Everything went well. I was able to use the sems type screws with the lock washer and flat washer installed on the screws.. The length was ok, but if using this style screw, I would see if you can get them just a bit longer.These are the screws I used -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08L37R3G2 . I replaced the 'stock cooler with the 'Noctua NH-U9S' - > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TBHYYFK , and replaced the rear stock fan with the 'Noctua NF-A9 PWM' -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RUZ059O . And everyone else has already mentioned, their packaging and products are top notch. I have never bought anything that I was so impressed with the packaging and the included parts for the quality and the level of detail included. And that's before I ever plugged them in !! It only gets better after that !
As you can see in the pictures my temps would reach 100C and run in the mid 80's during the benchmark testing before the change. And after the change it would top out at around 77C and run in the low to mid 60's. And idle temps around 31C. These are with fans set to quiet mode in AWCC.
I have not received any boot errors either on cold start or reboot, which seems consistent with the 0M6C7G motherboard A00 with with bios 1.1.0 (11/03/2020). Hope this continues. However I have noticed a couple of times that after reboot or cold start, not sure which (maybe both), my 'power plan' has switched to the 'Ultimate Performance' setting.
This is my first time removing a cooler from the CPU, and would like your opinions on how the original thermal paste application looks on the CPU and the stock cooler. I don't know if this is normal, or a sign of all the heat it has taken. It looks a bit splotchy to me. And it's also the first time I've applied thermal paste - took much , too little , would love to know your thoughts.
And I can confirm to those who have asked (and hopefully you can see it in the pictures) that this cooler does not interfere at all with the memory slot closest to the CPU.
I sure hope my comments and pictures will help anyone else looking into making this upgrade. I sure am glad I found this thread to ease my concerns on doing it. It was actually pretty easy. The only issue I had was with those tiny screws (and my shaky hands), and lining all the pieces up to screw the first one of each bracket in. That's why I think with the screws I used, if they were a little longer that would have helped. oh, and that reminds me ... I wasn't sure if the mounting 'studs' from the case protruded through the mother board to give you something to place the black spacers over... but they don't (well maybe just a hair). I was hoping they did so that would locate the spacers, but that's not the case.
Oh, and just for fun, I threw in a picture of the original cooler compared to the cooler that was in my HP with an i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz - https://valid.x86.fr/kiz9l4 , This is my G5 - https://valid.x86.fr/6dmbyz
That's all my thoughts for now, if I think if anything else, I'll post an update.
Thanks to everyone, and good luck to anyone planning to do this upgrade.
EDIT: oh yeah, and it doesn't sound like a jet engine anymore when the fans ramp up !!!
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March 7th, 2021 16:00
Do you guys think this would fit the socket? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-01TD00-1TD00-Precision-T3600-T5600-T7600-CPU-Heatsink-46-2/133442566860
hwsense
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March 7th, 2021 20:00
It will not, that one is for socket 2100, I have it in a Precision T5600. Get the stock VWMTJ.
J.bizz25
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March 16th, 2021 23:00
was super easy adding a 120mm intake fan. This weekend I'll be adding a 240mm aio into the case along with a 120mm exhaust fan. I'll update with pics. Just to show this little case is capable if your willing to modify.
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March 25th, 2021 21:00
Hi @deskjockey98 , @Vortex1337 , and others....
Everything has been working perfectly fine with the Noctua NH-U9S cooler installed with the sems type screws with the lock washer and flat washer installed on the screws. But I wanted to see if I could get the installation closer to the original intention by Noctua. And another part of the reason I wanted to do this was because as a first timer doing this with elderly shaky hands, it was a bit difficult for me to line up the spacers and the bracket and then put the screws through into the motherboard. So my thought was to find a long screw and cut the head off, then screw it into the motherboard, put the spacers on, then the bracket, and use the thumb screws included in the kit. But I was looking for a simpler approach, so I set off looking for a 3m thread 1" lg ... I found several set screws (grub screws)... but they were a little pricey. So then I came across this set screw (M3-0.5x25mm) and nut kit that is apparently used in rc cars or trucks. I bought it from Amazon, but you can probably find it in your local hobby shop - "TRA3962 Grub Set Screws & Nylon Locknuts (8) (Traxxas)"
The installation was a breeze using this method !!
Here is a link to my photos of the installation.
In these photos you'll also see that I added the 2nd fan to the cooler, and an intake fan at the front of the case.
This has been quite an interesting project for me. Would love to hear your comments !!
Thanks, Steve
Vortex1337
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March 26th, 2021 06:00
@SteveK318
Well done! Prolly gonna switch to set screws or longer M3 screws myself in the near future.
Now, I'm curious what temp. you get with the 4 Noctua fans under load?
I'm sitting at ~70C using 2 Noctua fans and the OEM fan (I use low noise adapters on all 3 fans).
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March 26th, 2021 08:00
@SteveK318 that is a really great solution!!! Good job and kudos for sharing with others. Love your fan setup. Very similar to mine, except that I used a 120mm Noctua at the front and installed one of the Dell fans at the bottom front of the case.
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March 26th, 2021 10:00
Hi all, I ordered a configuration with the 10400F, 1650 Super, and 360W PSU. Does anyone have experience with whether or not the popular thermal upgrades will still play well with only a 360W PSU?
So far it seems the good thermal upgrades are:
Noctua NH-U9S, for the cpu heatsink/fan
14mm or longer M3 screws and washers, for mounting the NH-U9S to the motherboard
Noctua NF-A9 PWM 92mm, for replacing the stock rear exhaust fan
Rerouting the stock exhaust fan to the front intake (if you don't need and remove the HDD bay)
Also noted in the thread, there seems to be some odd software and bios abnormalities regarding fan speeds and whatnot, but none are actually of concern and are inconsistent from individual to individual.
Personally I see some good fun potential for this prebuilt by upgrading the NVME storage, adding more ram (mine came with 8gb), updating some cable management, and adding more 2.5inch storage up top.
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March 26th, 2021 12:00
@Anonymous: fans use very little power (under 5W), so adding those extra fans won't bring your PSU anywhere near its limits. Your 360W should be more than enough to handle a 10400F and 1650 Super.
TBH, you might not even need the beefy Noctua on the 10400F. The stock cooler might keep the temps under control, but it will be loud, so if you can spend a bit on the Noctua, it will definitely help you get a quieter system.
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March 27th, 2021 12:00
@Vortex1337 - Thanks !! I really like that I thought to do this. I think it really makes it easier for the install, and stays more true to the design by Noctua !!
Here are some screen shots during some load testing. I don't understand it all, but I ran them anyhow.
Ambient temp 29-30c
Hope this helps!
Here are the Blender screenshots....
Here are the Cinebench R20 screenshots....
Here are the Prime95 screenshots....
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March 27th, 2021 12:00
@bertro514 - Thanks !! I really like that I thought to do this. I think it really makes it easier for the install, and stays more true to the design by Noctua !!
I think had I checked into a little more, I would have gone with the 120mm fan... I don't think I have any room for a fan at the bottom front with the 2070 super in there !
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March 27th, 2021 13:00
Just updated my Bios to 1.1.1 and still no fan error messages after a cold start or reboot
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March 27th, 2021 13:00
@Anonymous - Good luck with your upgrades ! I have the i7-10700F with the RTX 2070 SUPER... Mine has the 500w PSU, so I can't help you in that respect.
I have recently done the upgrades with the Noctua NH-U9S cooler a couple of different times... The first time I did a slightly modified version of using the m3x16mm screws and washers, by using a sems type screw which is a screw with captured flat and lock washer on it - here's a link to that version . Then I got thinking and wanted to make the installation a bit easier and more true to the original Noctua design - so I found some m3x25mm set screws - and here's a link to the that version. If you can afford a couple of extra bucks, I would strongly suggest the 2nd method with the set screws.
As far as the Bios error, I do believe there is a consistency depending on which motherboard and Bios version you have.... I'm guessing you have the same motherboard as I do , the 0M6C7G .. if you have the 0M6C7G motherboard A00 with with bios 1.1.0 (11/03/2020), I think you will be all set.
Again, best of luck and have fun with your upgrades !
-- Steve