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December 2nd, 2011 12:00

Documents and Setting- Access Denied

I get accessed denied on many folders even though I am the Administra

tor. In XP you couldn't copy My Documents unless you accessed it under Documents and Settings. What do I have to do gain access to my Computer's folders?

Roy

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December 5th, 2011 09:00

By eliminating hiberfil.sys according to Microsoft's instruction (thru using the DOS prompt) Windows 7 allowed me to give  my user name get full control. So I can access almost everything.  I still can't access Documents and Setting under the OS but I can thru the network/users. I also tried to eliminate a shortcut to ebay but wasn't allowed to delete it as I needed permission from "the System". Welll i just leave the 1kb file there. XPMode is still available so it must have its own hiberfil file.

The reason I bought this computer is to get Photoshop enough RAM and I need to know how to control Windows 7 effectively.

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December 2nd, 2011 13:00

You can take Ownership of some and/or grant your username access/rights also.  Which folders are you talking about?  What are you trying to do?

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December 3rd, 2011 07:00

Documents and Setting and many other folder.  In general I want to be be able to inspect all of windows and be able to control it . Specificly I was trying to move my AOL mailbox form my XP computer to my Windows 7 computer. I hold alot of things in mail waiting to send and in saved emails in specific folder s in AOL 's mail box. I put the folders on an USB stick drive but can't load it into the correct spot as Windows 7 denies me access,   According to my adminstrative setting I have access to all but obviously do not. Could also be a Dell thing as maybe they have set up the computer to be used by employees in an office to make tampering.  Perhaps I should put a real XP operating system on the Windows 7 as a dual boot. (XP mode has much to be desired). I wonder how much RAM XP can address?

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December 3rd, 2011 20:00

"I wonder how much RAM XP can address?"

4GB, although your usable RAM will be somewhat less (somewhere between 3.0 and 3.75, depending on your system and configuration).

From what you describe, I don't see why you need to put those folders in "protected" folders.  You should be able to put them in the root of C: (C:\AOL, etc.) or in your Documents folder - someplace Windows has set aside for you to use.  Is there a reason you cannot do this?  Yes, you are an administrator, but there are places that, for your protection, Windows will not allow you to save/change/move to/from, like Program Files, etc.  These are not Dell restrictions - they are Windows restrictions.

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December 3rd, 2011 21:00

Something similar happened to me recently too. Many of my folders had their permissions changed in the wake of a virus infection. Never found a reliable fix, but maybe checking for viruses could be a place to start?

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December 4th, 2011 11:00

     The places the folders need to be placed are "protected". Two I won't use a an OS that I don't have control over and don't know how it functions. The Library System won't let me place pictures in a new folder not under "My Pictures". I have to go to Drive C: and create Pictures folders there

XP Mode has 512 MB of RAM  so I would have to install Xp as a dual boot system to address the 4GB of RAM. I know Photoshop 7.0 can address 3.0 Gigs of RAM. I assume Photoshop 10.0 (CS5) can address a lot more. Thus I have to get Windows 7 under control to use 12 GIG of RAM.

I will look for a global way to free up my access. Apparently there is no way to access the computer as the administrator (this is strange) and using my user id always leads to an error message about hiberfil file instability.

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"I wonder how much RAM XP can address?"

4GB, although your usable RAM will be somewhat less (somewhere between 3.0 and 3.75, depending on your system and configuration).

From what you describe, I don't see why you need to put those folders in "protected" folders.  You should be able to put them in the root of C: (C:\AOL, etc.) or in your Documents folder - someplace Windows has set aside for you to use.  Is there a reason you cannot do this?  Yes, you are an administrator, but there are places that, for your protection, Windows will not allow you to save/change/move to/from, like Program Files, etc.  These are not Dell restrictions - they are Windows restrictions.

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December 4th, 2011 13:00

They absolutely MUST go in one of the protected areas??  Sound like a compatibility issue to me.

Read up on the purpose and function of the Libraries in Windows 7 to know how to set them up as you like:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd861346.aspx

You can change the amount that Virtual PC assigns to Virtual Machines (in the XP Mode VM Settings).  If you run XP Mode in a Windows 7x64 installation with 12GB, you could change the amount of RAM for XP Mode to whatever you want (however, as XP Mode is only 32-bit, the 4GB limit will still apply).

Not sure what you mean by "I have to get Windows 7 under control to use 12 GIG of RAM".

In order to do what you feel you want to do with your system, you have to add your actual Username with Full Control to the folder in question.  In some cases, you have to take "ownership" of the folder first before adding yourself with Full Control will have any effect.  For example, Trusted Installer has ownership and Full Control over your Program Files folder, and it, in turn, gives you as much permission as you need over that folder to run your installed programs - the Program Data and AppData folders usually contain the programs' settings and data.  Most people do NOT need more direct access to this folder than this.

Just remember that it is for the protection and stability of the system that you don't have general access to these folders, so modifying their contents without knowing how they work and what you are doing can screw up your system.  As you said, if you "don't know how it functions", I would first suggest learning about its design.

December 12th, 2011 22:00

Hi PhotoRoy9,

 

Windows 7 brings changes to paths in reference to "Documents and Settings." If you formerly were used to navigating to "C:/Documents and Settings/ [username]/" in order to see your "My Documents", "Desktop", and "Favorites" files you will now direct your path to the following location within Windows 7: "C:/Users/[username]/".

 

While "Documents and Settings" may be visible within Windows 7 when hidden files are selected to be viewable, it is not an accessible path. 

 

For more information on where files and folders are located after moving from Windows XP to Windows 7 please see the Windows Support article Where are my files and folders after upgrading from Windows XP or Windows Vista?

 

Also, in answer to your question regarding XP and RAM, 32-bit operating systems typically address a max of 3GB of memory. One can find information regarding the limitations of different Windows editions here.

 

Jessica

Windows Outreach Team -- IT Pro

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December 12th, 2011 22:00

Just to point out one thing ... the max memory in 32-bit OS's is not 3GB or 3.5GB ... it is 4GB.  All 4GB will not be available for Windows to use, but the actual max is 4GB (as noted in the article you linked to).

December 13th, 2011 23:00

"Regarding XP and RAM, 32-bit operating systems typically address a max of 3GB of memory. One can find information regarding the limitations of different Windows editions here."

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December 14th, 2011 07:00

lol ... and what does your link say is the limit for XP 32-bit?

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