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An ALX Files Story: Upgrade Area-51 Cooling to New Aurora 240mm CryoTech Rad
Aurora R15 CryoTech 240mm Liquid AIO CPU Coolers
AMD AM5/(AM4) by Cooler Master CN5XT | Intel 1700 by Asetek 92KFV
Note the Tube Position & Beauty Caps Distinguish One from Other
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I took delivery last week of a used ClrMstr ($73 shipped) in like new condition which doesn't have braided tube sleeves (may be a sign that some did & some didn't have, I thought they're all supposed to be sleeved, apparently not ... where is Frank Azor on this?!) while the Asetek is brand new never used ($106 shipped), sleeved, & came with the ez remove R15 top frame tab-mount (has no part# on it ... hmph). It's a beauty for R1 (if it wasn't 27mm slim & the tubes weren't so short) ... but let's drop this new girl into R1 shall we? ... Shan't we? ... We shall
Below's an R15/16 non-Cryo 240mm by Asetek (part# currently unknown)
U may see these for sale soon, may want one (I do, as a design exercise below)
My newest Lunar Shadow Area-51 R1 is a LightFury, her name is Alanna, & she's one of the very 1st Aliens to do the Aurora R15/16 240mm cooler swap
The AMD by ClrMstr is based off of their newest PL240 Flux model, it arrived here 1st & very quickly I had reason to think that the AM5 retention ring might be a permanent fixture & thus more proprietary evil alien tech, so I hope to know more soon about getting the retention off & a new Intel-type on. I hope this cooler doesn't have an otherwise permanent AM5 retention, but if so?, AT WORST I feel it still can be used but only perhaps on AM4 AM5 aftrmrkt retail AMD mthrbrds. If you own an Intel board there's reason to suspect the ClrMstr isn't for you ... if u play w/ AMD? Mr Azor would be proud & so would I
HOWEVER, did you see that non-Cryo 240 up there? It's by Asetek so every reason to think it can be used on older & newer AMD & Intel boards so long as u have the correct Asetek retention for it
My Cryo Intel by Asetek arrived earlier today, the top chassis mount frame came off ez, it was wearing a socket 1700 retention which I easily removed & replaced w/ an Asetek 2011/v3/2066 retention now mated to my A51 R2 X99 XJKKD alienboard. I had just enough time to install this & get a photo, but did not put the desktop back together yet for testing due to no time tonight. I will do a series of several posts in the coming days w/pics & as much info as I can provide, so bookmark this page & check back for more
Here I've exclusively been using the older Asetek 570LX w/ a phat 240x38mm radiator. Both the Asetek & ClrMstr above are 240x27mm wide radiators -slimmer for me but maybe an upgrade for you- & they should come w/ 120x25mm fans by FoxConn 1.2v 126CFM + or by Delta 1.5v 131CFM, both are the same part# JRPPD (?!)
Here, using its 25mm fans & dropping it all into the top cooling caddy?, the tubes on the Asetek are a little short -too short- for this R1 case & this X99 alienboard socket location (the pump didn't reach by a smidge!); I overcame that by using x3 38mm fans that now help the cooler pump just reach the socket. Problem solved. My next experiment will be to use x3 25mm spacers in tandem w/ x3 25mm fans in order to 'drop' the rad down 12mm & give that outer tube 1/2" inch more wiggle room -which I'll discuss later- but there's reason to suspect that these shorter tubes may interfere w/ your particular mthrbrd & where its socket is exactly located
Now, I just sold Alanna's original x58 1366 J560M alienboard, replaced it w/ this R2 X99 board & the original W550R cooler she came with?, I checked it out, it couldn't plug back in which means the socket location on the X99 shifted to the right & knowing that I do wonder if this Asetek cryo-cooler's tubes will reach not just the original X58 socket, but alot of mthrbd sockets )= ... my NEXT test is using 25mm spacers to help get more room for the tubes
Note on Rad Orientation: Up in our x3 120mm top cooling caddy, the tubes will ONLY orient to the right as u see them ... the radiator can't be turned around w/ tubes facing left, at least in my test here
Note on A51 R2-R7 Triad Centauri Cases: I no longer own the R2 case I had (his name was KAL) so I may not be of much help w/ this cooler & its 'short' tubes & whether it works or not in your case. I'll grab & post the tube length measurements later now that I'm aware they're an 'potential issue'. Had the tubes been longer we'd just drop these in like any other 240 ...
As for the pump motor lead, they're a true 4-wire 4pin PWM type & they're short (~4.5" inches / 12cm), so you WILL need a 4pin PWM extension. The R1 MIO board will NOT spit out the PWM signal on pin4, but no problemo there ... I'll know more after I power on & test temps over the weekend
Note on Looks? After I have Alanna all put back together, this alienhead beauty cap is gonna look stellar against her bespoke black & white interior treatments ... just wish it was a larger 38mm wide rad in here !!! ... & ... last, I will probe the LED connector & see if I can't get this cap to light up w/ some base color 'somehow' ... if not? ... I walked in knowing it might not ever light up & that's ok, it is what it is, so stay tuned
Abv: Seller sent me a pic of my new alien AMD cooler in action w/ Asus TUF x570-Plus AM4
yes ... AM4 ... in a non-Alien case ... it's not a lie, mine looks as new as the Asetek does, no dust no nothing ...
where's the braided sleeve at ??? cost cut ???
Regardless. Dellware Alien 240 coolers can, have been & will be repurposed
Newer, Bigger & Luvlier
I'll do what I can to help u install one
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Post #2: The forum didn't seem to recognize paragraphs or spaces yesterday... what I typed & submitted in post #1 above?, wasn't that concentrated 'word-mess' u saw but a forum glitch / eye sore ... mea culpa, things seem to be better today w/ text spacing
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x3 25mm Top Fans + x3 25mm Fan Spacers ... Work Better w/ the R2 X99 XJKKD
In 51 R1, the original cooling setup is a 27mm wide rad + 38mm server-grade fan = 65mm 'intrusion' from the top cooling caddy 'down' into the case, specifically @ the top mthrbrd sill
If we were to use the thickest 120x49mm rad + 25mm fan = 74mm intrusion = ~Limit'
What if I said I just used a 25mm fan PAIR = 50mm + 27mm rad = 77mm intrusion = workx
Since we need 120mm fans of some width, if we don't necessarily nevermind the ultra-slim 12mm & 15mm wide types but know they're there if need be, 'normal' fan-widths + 27MM RAD:
Stay w/ me ... a 120x49mm Rad like Corsair H80i or Area-51 R7 TRip = 49mm + 25mm fan = 74mm intrusion the next 'Limit'
Ok, so I use a 25mm fan + 25mm spacer pair + 27mm rad = 77mm 'intrusion' the 'true' Limit
Note: above is what I call a 'solid' body fan, such that there's no 'hole' in the middle screw mount, we'd like to avoid these & buy hollow' body fans (below), where there's no 'meat' between the upper & lower x4 screw holes. I Dremel-tooled my solid-bodies to remove that meat for reasons I'll get into later: Additional short screw access, so as to bolt a fan to a spacer & yet still bolt the fan to the rad, ... the screw driver needs access to top & bottom holes, solid-bodies are wrong as spacers, buy hollows)
But there it is. I hollow out cheap 25mm fans & use them as spacers on top of the new 25mm fan + 27mm rad = 77mm intrusion ... & it just works, just fits ... this mod 'buys' the short outer cooler pump tube an extra 12mm 1/2" of wiggle room = less strain on it than my 38mm fan/ 27mm rad setup from post #1. I could have sat there w/ that 38mm fan config but I now feel this is best for that one 'tube' long term lol
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Aurora R15 is a micro-ATX case
This cooler was designed to have shorter tubes. Whether you own the original R1 X58 mthrbrd or go to aftrmrkt retail boards, each board maker will place the socket 'somewhere', so no ez solutions for what each individual will need for their particular fan widths & potential for (hand-made?) spacers, it'll depend on your mthrbrd socket location
I do not think running JUST 25mm wide fans will work, u may need 38mm wides minimum, & if the tube 'strains' on 38mm's (too close for comfort), go to 25mm fans + 25mm spacers like I'll probably settle with & did here & it might / SHOULD work out for u there (=
I'll upd8 w/ more later
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W/ a short tube length ~12" inches 30.5cm, it's ~1" inch 2.5cm longer than the Intel Asetek's ~11" inches 28cm, & it's based on ClrMstr's newer PL240 Flux model (coldplate)
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Two Ways to Install 240mm Radiator
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Will post further LED color tests for PASS v FAIL later
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May 2024 & I've finally gotten the cooler-cap to light up, link here:
An ALX Files Story: Retrofit Area-51 R1 w/ Aurora LED LightBar CryoTech 240mm Rad 1000w PSU R5 x299 Motherboard
Remember to Ground the Cap's pin 5 &/or 10 in your wiring scheme
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AMD CN5XT UPDATE
Asetek Sleeved vs Cooler Master Unsleeved Tubes
As you saw last year, my CN5XT cooler arrived with unsleeved tubes, a funky shape of coldplate & an otherwise fixed-permanent retention ring for AMD AM4/5 motherboards, made by Cooler Master
I've just come across a few AMD-style Cryo coolers which are made by Asetek & yet have the same CN5XT part # (odd, very odd) ... they have the same AMD honeycomb cap, braided sleeved side-mounted tubes, a typical round coldplate & most important a removable Asetek retention ring
I do not own & haven't confirmed the tube length yet (11" or 12") but I'm now of the opinion that this style cooler with side-mounted tubes will make for an equal if not better fit in the R1 vs 92KFV with its 'bottom' mounted tubes ...
If you intend to do an Intel system, put this style of CN5XT back on your radar