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December 15th, 2020 14:00

XPS 15 7590, 2019, overheating, constant fan, shutdowns

I've had this laptop for a year and since day one had problems with loud fans and overheating. The purchased 1 year warranty expired on June 28, 2020. The top near the screen is nearly always way too hot for comfort and has increased with time.

Recently it's got to the point where the laptop has shut down a couple of times and I'm now worried about my data. I use this 95% for work using a few tabs of Firefox, some light photo editing and spreadsheet/business boring stuff.

I've tried a bunch of things to rectify from the start, including undervolting the CPU and having a pretty restrictive bunch of settings on all the time to stop the top end of turbo boosts.

I use Afterburner to reduce the thermals on the graphics card whens playing light games - never anything modern or GPU intensive. I use Dell Power Manager on the Ultra settings, plus I also have the laptop on a stand with plenty of airflow underneath.

I got the i7-9750H because I understand the i9 throttles and heats up faster, and I keep the fans clean of dust with an occasional bit of compressed air.

Everything seems to be working fine but the thermal on the laptop are completely letting it down to the point of failure. It's just over a year old and out of it's one year support.

What can I do and is there a way of returning this or getting credit for a thermally better model? I had the 2018 9750 and it was great but had similar issues (until it was stolen), this one somehow is worse.

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December 16th, 2020 00:00

If the notebook is used for a long time, it is easy to heat up, causing the machine to run sluggishly, opening the page slowly or having difficulty in starting the machine. In severe cases, the system crashes or blue screen. Mainly due to the following reasons: 1. The use environment is harsh; the temperature and humidity are too high, and the dust is seriously affected; 2. Too many conflicting software is loaded and too many software startup items. 3. Have used USB flash drives with viruses and poor performance. 4. The attributes of the connected U-port mouse do not match the attributes of other U-ports, so that there is too much residual static electricity. In order to effectively extend the service life and stability of the machine, it is necessary to carry out regular maintenance on the notebook, and it is recommended that it be done every six months. The specific method is as follows: 1. Software cleanup, uninstall some infrequently used software, close some startup items. 2. Check and kill the software regularly to prevent Trojan horses or viruses from intruding. 3. Hardware cleaning (1) Use a hair dryer or vacuum cleaner to clean at the air outlet of the notebook. (2) Remove the memory stick regularly, wash it with rubber or alcohol, and recover after washing. (3) If possible, you can disassemble the notebook and use a small brush to remove the dust from the CPU fan and the dust on the radiator. (4) Remove the CPU and the radiator, and check whether the thermal grease on them is cracked or cracked. Clean and replace. Apply new thermal grease. (5) Check whether the fan speed is normal. If it is abnormal, replace the fan. In short, you must be careful during cleaning and maintenance, especially dust, which will not only increase the heat dissipation efficiency of the CPU, but also seriously affect the hard disk. Therefore, it is best to regularly maintain the machine's hardware and software, so that it can better serve you.

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December 16th, 2020 02:00

Does the system report any Fan, Temperature, or Thermal Event errors on start-up?

To determine if your computer is experiencing a hardware problem, run the Dell Online Diagnostics.

If you are unable to boot the system to access the Dell Online Diagnostics, use the Dell Preboot System Diagnostics.

December 16th, 2020 04:00

Yeah I expect an older laptop running 24/7 to eventually have problems, but a very high spec laptop that's 1 year old, keep elevated for better airflow and really well looked after shouldn't.

1. It's in an office in the cool temps of Wales and humidity is low.

2. I'm very mindful of startup apps being kept to an absolute minimum (4 things, highest impact is Windows Security icon), I have no bloatware or software that is on non-stop.

3. I don't put random USB drives from the street into my laptop.

4. What is a U port?

 

For maintenance:

1. I cleanup fairly regularly by uninstalling things I haven't used, and I keep tabs on what programs are doing/installing and services via ccleaner and manually. Down to startup and task scheduler.

2. I know exactly what's running on the laptop and I've even removed windows services that I don't use.

3. I use compressed air (safely) every month or two. Wash my RAM? For real?

Does opening the laptop and changing the thermal paste or upgrading parts/cleaning parts void or alter the warranty at all? I've looked even at upgrading the heatsink to a model from alibaba at this point.

 

I use simplewall to block a tonne of bad traffic and use various anti-virus software as well as occasionally running rootkit finding software.

December 16th, 2020 06:00

Installing Dell System Support puts my laptop into constant BSOD's shortly after system startup.

So that isn't helpful.

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December 17th, 2020 09:00

Hello! 

We'd like to check if you had time to perform the steps we recommended? HWINFO and testing with TurboBoost disabled in the BIOS.

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is there a way of returning this or getting credit for a thermally better model?
* No, that is not possible.

Does opening the laptop and changing the thermal paste or upgrading parts/cleaning parts void or alter the warranty at all?
* That is not a service that Dell provides so you would need to do this for both the GPU and CPU.

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May 6th, 2021 14:00

Total sack of an answer - disable the turbo boost?? We've paid top dollar for the performance that you are now suggesting to disable in order to compensate for poor engineering!

I am suffering exactly the same problem. The laptop was fine to begin with but now with successive BIOS and driver updates, it now constantly overheats and thermal throttles. Total rubbish. I bought this as a performance laptop capable of gaming as well as work. Well, now, all I can pretty much do is browse the web and check emails and even that will cause my CPU temps to hit over 100 degrees! 

Bloody disgrace. As per the original poster, this all really started being noticeable just as the warranty was ending but I didn't really have the time to investigate it so it's all too late for me now. However, there is clearly an issues with these models - just a basic Google will throw up a ton of results with people having the same problems - so we should really be able to claim our money back with a SOGA claim here in the UK. 

Dell support are not interested when out of warranty but I'm not sure if extending the warranty makes sense as people under warranty are not getting this resolved. So, a very expensive POS. I shall not be purchasing any future Dell devices as the quality is clearly lacking and the customer service risible.

Seems the only option to try and take the edge off is take the thing apart and re-apply thermal paste/pads etc., but I don't think this will work 100% without the ability to undervolt the CPU which has been removed in the later BIOS and driver updates. 

Just stuck with a bloody expensive fan heater and am not happy.

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