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XPS 8940, NVMe M.2 drive on PCIe 4x expansion card, does not work
XPS 8940 here, come with a Western digital PC SN520 NVMe (256GB).
Bought a Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB a few months after, removed the WD and installed the 970, no sweat.
I kept the WD for a few months in case the 970 would develop an issue, which did not happen.
So decided to reinstall the WD on a PCIe expansion card (M.2 NVME to PCI-E 3.0 4X with M key).
I tried to install but the desktop tries to boot a few times then tell me there is a problem with the OS.
I guess it tries to boot from the WD on the expansion card instead of the 970.
Looked at the BIOS setting and 970 seems to be first in line in booting sequence.
By the way I bought a second expansion card thinking the first one was defective, same issue.
What is the best way to configure my BIOS, unless there is a limitation or issue preventing me to do what I want to do !
Thanks in advance.
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August 17th, 2021 16:00
If BIOS (UEFI) is still set to RAID, you may also have to change that to resolve the problem, in addition to initializing the old SSD (ALL FILES DELETED!). You can't just open BIOS setup and make the change. You have to prepare Win 10 for the change. Otherwise, you'll end up having to do a clean install...
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August 17th, 2021 13:00
@DroZ3 Have you tried booting using the F12 Boot Menu to select the 970? The problem could be either that the OS is still on the WD or that you cannot boot from an expansion card. If you are successful booting from the 970 using F12 you should reinitialize the WD to get rid of the OS and boot/EFI partition.
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August 17th, 2021 13:00
@Vic384 I formatted the WD in NTFS to remove the OS. Let me reboot to confirm the boot sequence.
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August 17th, 2021 14:00
@Vic384
By the way, goal is to continu booting from 970 and use WD as additional storage.
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August 17th, 2021 14:00
@DroZ3 Are you successful using F12 to boot from the 970? Until you reinitialize the WD, you will have to use F12 to make sure you boot from the 970.
I think you can reinitialize the WD by using Disk Management, but I like to use DiskPart. Here is how you use DiskPart: https://macrorit.com/partition-magic-manager/initialize-disk-gpt-mbr-from-cmd-diskpart.html
When using DiskPart, make sure you identify the correct drive using the 'list disk' command and make sure you select the correct drive by using the 'select disk' command.
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@DroZ3 I assume the WD is for additional storage. Formatting will get rid of the OS, but not the other partitions, such as the EFI partition. You may wish to read up on using DiskPart from the Command Prompt. Run Disk Management on the WD and see if other partitions remain.
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August 17th, 2021 14:00
you are right, I only did a format but forgot to delete the partitions ... duh.
Will do and tell you what happens, probably tomorrow.
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August 18th, 2021 00:00
You need a disk format not a partition format
CMD as admin
Diskpart
List disk
Assuming that WD is disk 1
Select disk 1
Clean
Now you will have an allocated space in disk management and you can format it as you want.
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August 19th, 2021 11:00
@Vic384 I tried F12 to boot from 970, but even after having selected 970 to boot the 8940 would still try to boot 3 times then gave me an error message.
@RoHe before I go forward with your procedure :
1- What do I gain and what do I lose if I switch from RAID to ACHI ?
2- Will this affect any of my 2 others disks already installed (1TB 970 on motherboard and 2TB SSD in expansion rack.
3- Is there a reason Dell has his setting at RAID out of the box ?
Thanks for the help guys.
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August 19th, 2021 12:00
@DroZ3 Is there an option to make Windows Boot Manager the first option in the Boot Sequence instead of what you currently have (UEFI Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB)? If there is a Windows Boot Manager option, try that.
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August 19th, 2021 12:00
@Vic384 ... Not sure I follow.
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August 19th, 2021 13:00
If the SN 720 is a SATA M2 could be the reason it DOES NOT WORK with a PCI-E X4 card. The other reason could be that your system does not support PCI-E bifrucation and therefore multiple M2 drives is not possible without a controller.
M2 is a socket not a drive specification.
cards with B & M key are SATA.
cards with A & E key are Wifi.
when you put the M2 drive in a usb dock it can be CLEANED with diskpart removing all partitions.
If f2 Sata operation is set to AHCI then M2 drives work. IF it is set to IRRT RAID optane mode M2 drives will not be seen by diskmgmt.msc.
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August 19th, 2021 15:00
@DroZ3 In the BIOS you showed the first boot option as 'UEFI Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB'. I wonder if you can change that option to Windows Boot Manager. I don't have an XPS 8940, so I don't know what the options are. In previous XPS models, the first boot option is usually Windows Boot Manager, that way if you insert a bootable USB or CD, the Windows Boot Manager will show the available boot devices in the F12 Boot Menu and you don't have to change the boot sequence in order to boot.
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@speedstep The X)S desktop bill of material was calling for a 256gb NVMe M.2, I have to assume the WD SSD is NVMe, unless Dell did a bait and switch, but I doubt it.
You said above the "cards with B&M key are SATA, but the image below shows a B&M key NVMe ... I am confused.
I formatted the WD at work with an M key USB adaptor but I forgot to delete the partition(s), if s), so the WD may not be as clean as I was thinking. I may have to go back at the office and use my IT Manager M key adaptor as I don't have one.
Gee, all of that for 256gb ... LOL.