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XPS 8930, add a graphics card?
These are my specs, I am looking to increase the performance of my pc for live streaming and video editing. Thanks in advance.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630
OS Name Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Version 10.0.22631 Build 22631
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-J30UHU9
System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
System Model XPS 8930
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU 0859
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700 CPU @ 3.00GHz, 3000 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. 1.1.18, 9/6/2021
SMBIOS Version 3.1
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer Dell Inc.
BaseBoard Product 0T2HR0
BaseBoard Version A02
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.22621.2506"
User Name DESKTOP-J30UHU9\FocusCDS
Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 40.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 39.8 GB
Available Physical Memory 26.0 GB
Total Virtual Memory 42.3 GB
Available Virtual Memory 29.3 GB
Page File Space 2.50 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Windows Defender Application Control policy Enforced
Windows Defender Application Control user mode policy Off
Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes
Chino de Oro
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July 26th, 2024 06:56
A good performer for video editing and live stream is Quadro RTX 4000 (link is for reference only, where to source will depend on your region/location). It will work with your current power supply (although undisclosed) and it will pair up well with your i7-9700.
Sample review.
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July 26th, 2024 12:55
Although the RTX4000 series from Nvidia is a good card, it might be more than you need? I'd think it is more for a 'gamer' than what you need?
'Live Streaming', are you producing it or watching? In either case, and watching doesn't need a high powered card, the RTX4000 series is not required, even the RTX1000 series is sufficient.
'Video Editing', same situation. Degree of 'need' might more depend on what program is used (not mentioned). I did video editing many years ago on an old 8100 and it had a video card that by today's standards the built-in Intel graphics card would be more powerful.
You didn't describe why you want to upgrade, in terms of what is not working well for you? I'd suspect the problem is more resolution and possible 'speed' than the need for graphics power (the ability to handle fast moving objects and show them clearly)?
I have an RTX2060 (older Nvidia card) with 6GB's of video RAM. Works well for me, even when using MS Flight Simulator (reduced display of items in terms of number and in some cases definition).
RTX4000 cards can be costly, especially as video RAM size increases... but I think it is more than you need? I'd suggest a lower model, the RTX3000, costs less and would probably serve you well, assuming you are not a heavy gamer.
In either case, you have to consider the power draw and the pin-outs (the card power connections). If you don't have the needed cables for the card, you might need splitters or even converters.
There is nothing wrong with RTX Nvidia cards, but you might also want to consider AMD cards. Could be easier to get (Amazon makes any easy to get) locally and a cheaper price? Buying locally might make it easier to get one, try it, and return if not what you need (some places might charge a restocking fee, Amazon doesn't as I recall).
Quite possible your Video Editing program might list required video card, if you are unhappy with the performance now? That or some spec's it expects for the card, maybe even the minimum RAM size? That might help you decide on the model of the card.
Gamer's more depend on Frames Per Second and resolution usually, what you asked about a card for I don't think that comes into play to get the highest one you can get for those.
What ever one you decide on, shop around, prices vary, even the same card but different vendors making the card.
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July 26th, 2024 14:17
after these expert opinions, I would just google and recommend these
RTX 4070 Ti, RTX 3050, GTX 1660 Super etc. all these are good step up from UHD 630 integrated gpu of 9700. OP budget and comfort level is a factor.
at this point maybe a too high jump to get RTX 4090 or RX 6900XT the high end cards
https://www.techradar.com/pro/best-graphics-cards-for-video-editing-of-year#section-the-quick-list
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Chino de Oro
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July 27th, 2024 04:08
Take note that Quadro RTX 4000 is professional video card for photo/video editing and 3D graphics design, it's not a gaming card. Also, it's an actual card model, not a series. You are confused with the GeForce RTX series.
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July 27th, 2024 11:46
@Chino de Oro
I understand that, but it might be overkill in terms of need, and maybe price. Not knowing the specific program makes it hard to determine the proper card.
Since the HD730 was used and no indication of what was 'wrong' with it, the absolute best card might not be needed. As I mentioned, I did 'video editing' years ago on a Dell 8100 I think. However, all I did was cut/edit, and added in overlays of text and sound using a program that case with the video capture card. Simple stuff probably. OP never mentioned why an upgrade was needed, i.e., the problem the HD730 presented. It also lists AMD equivalent ones.
There is no 'right' answer here, and the OP had to decide which is a better choice.
Yes, a specific card in the Nvidia card 4000 series.
Not sure why you are worked up over this, but check this link, https://www.techradar.com/pro/best-graphics-cards-for-video-editing-of-year posted above, and it has some recommendations as well. Best overall card, the 4070TI, and the best on a budget, the 3050 card. I know the card you mentioned is one of the card in the 4000 series from Nvidia, I guess I should have said "any RTX4000 series card" instead of "the RTX4000 series" would have been clearer.
Not knowing the root problem OP has, all we can do is suggest what might be good?
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Chino de Oro
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July 27th, 2024 18:01
If OP is not AI training bot and want to have accurate input from Community, provide additional information for intended use and budget. Accessible market/region can also be a challenge as products limitation.
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July 28th, 2024 23:08
Whatever you do, stick with a Nvidia card. I replaced my 1050Ti in my 8930 with 2 AMD cards and nightmare ensued. Computer kept crashing randomly and I could not get any work done. I also had to disable secure boot etc.
Finally, I got a GeForce RTX4060 (not ti) and everything is fine. I also upgraded my Power supply with a EvGA 750W.
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July 29th, 2024 22:11
If you need to keep it in the 160-watt power budget, go with the RTX 4060 ti 16 GB, Just install the Studio drivers, as it is 49.8 per cent faster than the RTX 4000 Quadro Card which was released in 2018 so you are looking at an 8-year-old card with half the performance of a budget current gen 40 series card that draws about the same amount of power. You could just install the studio drivers and get better results in productivity and creative applications.
You can get the 4060 ti 16 GB brand new for less than the Quadro card used and get about 50 per cent more performance using the same applications.
I am assuming you need to stay within the 160-watt power budget, secondly, you are using this for live streaming and gaming or gaming on a second pc.
The RTX 4000 Quadro is based on the 20 series so for live streaming you are going to be using an older non-optimized encoder vs using the newer NVENC encoder on the RTX 4060 TI 16GB. The Newer Encoders are on par with x264 Medium, also The newer Cards support H265 and AV1 encoding. The Quadro RTX 4000 does not support H265 and AV1 encoding.
Gaming wise the RTX 4060 TI is going to be a much better fit for gaming 60+ percent faster and live streaming on the same system.
For any photo and video editing software, the Quadro card is going to still be slower, honestly, that card costs about as much as an RTX 2080 Super but delivers RTX 2050-2060 numbers. It was a decent entry-level workstation card back in 2018 its now 2024.
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fishrman1
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August 4th, 2024 18:50
I am watching this because I have basically the same question. I have the XPS 8930 with I7-8700CPU 3.2 that I would like to upgrade from my GTX 1050TI. My Photo AI recommends at least a 6 gig card. I am not sure what my power supply is---guessing it is 460 watt as I see many were shipped with that one. Some have suggested the GX 1080 or RTX 4060 to me. Any help is appreciated. I have considered just buying a whole new computer since it is 7 years old but I hate transferring programs and data.
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August 4th, 2024 19:08
top consumer GPUs for AI in 2024:
4070 Ti SUPER
4080 SUPER
4070ti/4080 super have 16GB
Just for AI, pick the cheapest of the RTX list if vram <= 16GB is enough
Now in XPS 8930 with a basic 460W psu options are further limited to mid range gpu. do not go above the following gpu in terms of power
3070Ti
Load Wattage:469 W
Recommended PSU Wattage:519 W
4070 Ti
Load Wattage:464 W
Recommended PSU Wattage:514 W
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August 4th, 2024 23:44
@redxps630 Thanks, I just looked and updated my Power Supply to 750 a few years ago.
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August 5th, 2024 01:43
8930 case is not air flow friendly therefore a high power gpu such as 4090 will be a poor idea in it. Unless you swap case to a high air flow non-Dell case, I don’t recommend high power gpu.
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August 6th, 2024 22:09
@fishrman1 : I updated mine to a RTX 4060. However, as @redxps630 said, I also upgraded my CPU cooler and added a 120mm top fan.