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May 22nd, 2019 14:00

Vostro 260, not seeing Video Card

Hi,

I'm trying to install an AMD Radeon R265 video card in a Dell Vostro 260. I have swapped both this card and the 500 watt power supply from another PC, 

When installed the PC does not output video from either the onboard graphics or the Radeon video card.

I have the latest A10 BIOS but there is no option to disable the onboard graphics.

I have seen lots of other threads on this issue but no solutions!

 

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May 23rd, 2019 07:00

R series DO NOT WORK.

They DO NOT SUPPORT Legacy DOS VESA video mode 103 and therefore will NEVER work EVER.

This is not speculation its fact.

UEFI bios and 64 bit windows 8 or 10 is required for these cards.

This is also why there are no 32 bit  XP / VISTA drivers for the newer cards.

Processors past skylake are not only windows 10 only they are 64 bit windows 10 only.

Intel, NVIDIA, ATI, Quallcomm etc are going along with this.

That is why you cannot install windows xp thru windows 8.1 on newer systems.

Windows 10 is all you get period end.

If you want to game the BARE Minimum Recommended in 2019 is GT1030 GDDR5  card.

DDR4 versions of cards should be avoided as they are junk.

Next best thing is Zotac 1050TI Mini but that requires 300W or greater power supply which many dells no longer have.

 

 

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May 22nd, 2019 19:00

R Series cards require UEFI bios. You have class 1 non uefi bios.

Never going to work Ever.

 

May 23rd, 2019 04:00

That's disappointing, but at least you've saved me from a never ending goose chase, has anyone ever created a list of cards guaranteed to work?

My local CEX has a selection of second hand cards, I could trade mine in for one that I know works!

They currently have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB for £40, which seems a bit of a bargain....I just have to see if it will physically fit in the case as its a bit of a monster.

Or, they also have an AMD Radeon RX 460 4GB for £60 - which seems a better/newer card and its physically much smaller, but as its another AMD I'm worried it won't work either!

 

 

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May 23rd, 2019 06:00

"There is also a Dual UEFI BIOS switch which can be activated in the event of incompatibilities with a non UEFI motherboard." Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Toxic OC edition GPU, CASE IN POINT.

not all R cards are the same, many makers, all with there only rules/features and VBIOS.

this rule  is not true but partly sure.

R-series statements, wrong.

 

CAN WE STICK WITH ATI OR  NVIDIA, JUST TO CUT THE JOB IN HALF? IDK

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May 23rd, 2019 06:00

OK, A10 BUT did it show, legacy or safeboot anywhere.? if not there is no UEFI here nor 1/2 backed crummy UEFI. all you wanted was for BIOS screens to work with your R card. and most real old BIOS the card slots are scanned by the BIOS, and if it sees the magic IBM signature AA,55,AA,55, THIS code tells MAIN bios that VBIOS is present (or RAID card etc) the then the BIOS autoswitches to it. (with no choice allowed by you ) this answer is old legacy PC answers. (endless) then you see video, if not the card is bad.

 

does the card or cards fail  in 2 PCs, that be like my first check and in a X16 top slot only !!!

no ports stated by you , DVI-I or DIV-D..  what cables are you using,>?

one card out of MANY R7-265s has

1 x DVI-D 1 x DVI-I 1 x HDMI 1 x DisplayPort                        

which port fails and if  all say so. The Dash D only does digital, and the monitor must too.(and cable)

not using adaptors on those ports are you

if the card is dead, (or connected wrong) the DISPLAY will text you (OSD) no sig, no signa, no sync or like modern monitors whos, "cables not connected all ports scanned" or the like , but all do this for 20 years running.

 

bah , UEFI,

DVI-d wrong

the card all by it self uses 150watts of power (full tilt say gaming etc)

500w PSU means zero to me.. the 12vdc rails most have 12.5amps just for your card, so what PSU is this.

name or model, some have one 12v rail (of 2) that is way too low.

that card has its own power port, that **bleep**.75 more watts (75x2 = 150w total)

and is NOT OPTION at all,  if  you see AUX jacks on a card, they ARE NEVER OPTIONAL EVER

and needs PSU version 2.2 and newer,.with 8 pin aux cable.

here is photo of on 265 card, just one of many no 2 the same really,  (vastsub model exist with there own P/n)

see that red circle I drew, did you forget this?  or worse the PSU has no ATX12v cable 6pins.

or worse worse you plug in EPS-12 cable here (forced) and you blow the card up. (EPS is only for servers)

265.JPGI now posted every way to mess up this card,  I hope.   now if  others search every possible way on one page.

 

many  GTX750s have no jack they are 75watts only max, most are like that. no AUX.

all or most GTX1050 have no jack, mine here, typing now on PC with it has no jack (brand new UEFI mobo z270)

if you posted what cable you have and the P/n of a card, not just the number (750 etc) then we can look up you exact makers card, by makers name and p/n and see EXACTLY what it is and needs and has manual

some of the manuals are lame sure. but the wiki picks up that slack 100% (both needed)

The some card makers pick form 10 GPU chips and some pick graded  fasted clock and add more DDR ram

and runs more current. this is why there are like 20 ,Gtx750 card, or the like, due to those CHOICES.

also bad is many web sites show the card in many view photos not once showing top or rear. and missing that nasty AUX jack, omg it needs MORE POWER  and the correct PSU. or will be born dead.

 

 

 

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May 23rd, 2019 06:00

Got mobo A10 version bios?

some boards (mb) are dual mode, CSM and UEFI,  and Vrom auto detects the mobo, settings,  (as the PC  boots the cards vROM runs and scan to see what you have set in your main board)

yes there are gpu cards that mess this all up, for sure....

the big restrictions(dells) is new dells fail to allow old GPU. that is not UEFI certified,

but your PC is not a new Dell its 2011, or 2013 if A10 bios flashed new.

the bios in most dells (this ones old?)  have a VIDEO setting there, 1,2,3,   (onboard video, PCI or auto)

I can't look for you. (no docs either)

DELL does not document BIOS and for sure after 10 updates. SO WE LOOK on every page in BIOS first.

try the PCI  setting. for VIDEO choice on BIOS.

look for LEGACY modes, every where in the BIOS, we do this all the time and never assume we know what is there and for sure after flashed new MOBO BIOS.

The LIST OF CARDS:?

there is no answer to your question (no general answer but one ) 1012 is the year that things when UEFI crazy.

so many makers of your GTX750 will work but that IS MY POINT there is not one maker nor of the cards BIOS.

some top makers of card also have many choices of VBIOS upgrades, (ok?)  most only have this on cards that had very  buggy VBIOS. the 1070 had many.

each maker has there own policy on this. (or even offer no updates at all)

so each maker may force UEFI only on you or not. 

DID you try turning off UEFI in the BIOS of the PC first?  (secure boot off, and legacy mode on>? If present)

I have PCs that are 2012 here and are ONLY 1/2 UEFI support, I mean the maker never finished baking the UEFI cake and warns you (HP) that do not use UEFI on this PC, ever. and there will never be an update final.

for sure safeboot DOA on may OEM PCs, bios updates stalled for funding I guess.

see why there is no answer,?

your PC is as old as 2011 , 8 year old and may be 1/2 backed BIOS.

format the drive GPT, run none UEFI modes.

then any video card works.  even new cards.

I have GTX650 in a dell 1030 OptiPlex and GTX1050 that iv'e tried in many PCs here, as a test, and all work.

but was careful to avoid UEFI in all cases.

OH !

  btw you do not need UEFI to get GPT, nor need UEFI to use 3TB drives working.

my friend did  2007 pc. SAME 1050. VOTAC.

How ever other friend with EVGA card,brand fails, until he upgraded its vbios.

 

ReCAP:

old 2011 PC:

Secure boot off, is found A10 version:? IDK

GPT drive formatted. 3TB up works.

legacy modes , ON>

before buying any card, for sure GTX750 or 1050 (both use 75 watts and less) google it

use the brand name first, not just GTXxxxx ok> use the brand name

then search like this.  EVGA (or VOtac (my fav) GTX1050  , works with my old  PC.

see?>  learn to be specific in the search and win.  (no 2 makers talk to each other)

UEFI mostly only works on w8 up mobo, that means sold with it. (ok?) using w7 on w8 BIOS PC on many OEM makers PC, will fail, (for sure HP) IDK on dell. but UEFI  is very tricky. your PC came with w7  I bet.

upgrade BIOS with tender care, ok? ask for help. and use a UPS.

now a parting shot ,  many new oEM PCs in fact will not run LEGACY GPU cards, at all, "BY DESIGN"

due the UEFI mandate, the mandate for secureboot  is hard and fast and the card fails that mandate and the BIOS screens are dead black on old cards.

no IDEA at on A10 release 2013, no me. sorry./

no answers:?

the real reasons is that there is no such thing (as 1 example) a GTX750, card or GTX750ti. 

each has  maker that decided this all on their own.  (ram sizes, chip clocks, BIOS rom and all that)

there is no list of cards, to make one would take years of hard labor and a huge budget.

then get lost in a sea of BIOS VERSION. wow.

IDK but on your DELL PC try turning off UEFI totally (if present at all)(be backed up first)

2011 PC has A10 2013 bios SO IDK I do not know, as dell does not document upgrade features changed,

cept this "Fixed issues with memory size reported in Operating System." and fan noises.

gee it seems ZERO UEFI PC to me,  no book there has the word UEFI in it on this model but docs are sparse.

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May 23rd, 2019 07:00

 

NVIDIA Cards up to the Pascal Series aka 1080TI work in older dells.
RTX Series does not work for the same reasons.

This guy put a 1080 TI into a 2006 XPS 400 and it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9b0TkTsLM

May 23rd, 2019 07:00

Hi Savvy,

Thanks for all the detailed replies, the BIOS on this Dell Vostro 260 MT is very limited, on a previous PC I had the option to disable onboard video to enable video from the PCI-e slot. On this one I only have the option to disable audio, not do I have the option to disable Secure Boot.

The switch you mention on the R9 270x, is that a physical switch somewhere on the board or does onboard software sense the BIOS and switch automatcally? Is there a chance my R7 265 also has  a switch?

It's an Antec power supply, I know that it does power the card as they have both been living in my previous PC for the last 3 years. The card does have a 6 pin power port which is plugged in, just as it was on the old PC.

This is the exact card I have: https://www.amazon.co.uk/VTX3D-265-GDDR5-Graphics-Card/dp/B00K1ACI9A

Thanks!

July 5th, 2020 14:00

I also have a DELL Vostro 260s with the A10 BIOS. This BIOS is bare in functionality, offering almost no ability to make any changes to the system. As far as Radeon cards go, nothing newer than an HD6450 seems to work. I don't know about NVIDIA cards.

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