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Best heatsink upgrade for Dell Precision T3620 with Intel i7-7700K CPU?
I bought a refurbished Dell Precision T3620 with an Intel i7-7700K CPU. It came with a generic heatsink. Here's a picture of the interior of my computer (it was running when I took this picture, so the fan blades aren't very visible):
Apparently, this is not the ideal heatsink for a Precision 3620 with an i7-7700K. The recommended heatsink for use in this model when using an i7-7700K is the VWMTJ, as seen in this picture of someone else's computer:
I am mostly pleased with my computer, as it runs very stably (which is not always the case with refurbished computers), and I bought it for a very low price as a "fixer-upper" anyway. I don't want to return it.
The only issue I have with the computer is that the less-than-ideal heatsink isn't adequate for my i7-7700K CPU (i7-7700Ks are notorious for running hot). Temperatures stay fairly manageable (albeit higher than I'd prefer, and with a lot of fan noise whenever I do anything CPU-intensive) as long as I keep Turbo Boost disabled in BIOS, but if I enable Turbo Boost, the temps hit 100 Celcius within seconds of beginning to run a Prime95 test. For this reason, I want to remove the heatsink that came with it and install a better one.
What I want to know is what my best option is. I know that the obvious choice would be a VWMTJ, but while I'm sure that would be an improvement over what I have now, I'm inclined to believe that there are likely better options out there that probably provide even better cooling performance.
I don't want anything overly fancy or expensive (water coolers and such), but I want something that can keep my i7-7700K very cool even when performing CPU-intensive tasks (like rendering video in DaVinci Resolve) for many hours. I also want it to be small enough to allow me to access and replace my RAM sticks and to be able to upgrade my GPU. If possible, I'd also like the heatsink to come with pre-applied thermal paste, as I find the process of figuring out exactly how much paste to use and exactly how to position it very nerve-wracking. (I intend to use an ArctiClean kit to remove the current paste when removing my current heatsink.)
I've been looking at some of Noctua's options, using this list which specifies which of their heatsinks are compatible with an i7-7700K as as a guide:
https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-288
So far, this appears to me to be the most promising option (although it unfortunately comes with a tube of thermal paste rather than having it pre-applied):
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D12L-Low-Height-Dual-Tower-Cooler/dp/B09TB5KJ5V
This one is significantly cheaper and has pre-applied thermal paste, but I'm not sure if its cooling performance is good enough and I've heard that there have been complaints about it making a grinding noise:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPDD6GD/
From what I can tell, both of those come with multiple mounting brackets (known as the SecuFirm2 system) for mounting to different motherboards. I'm not 100% sure whether they include brackets compatible with my computer, but one of the brackets pictured on the boxes looks like the right type as far as I can tell.
I am mostly pleased with my computer, as it runs very stably (which is not always the case with refurbished computers), and I bought it for a very low price as a "fixer-upper" anyway. I don't want to return it.
The only issue I have with the computer is that the less-than-ideal heatsink isn't adequate for my i7-7700K CPU (i7-7700Ks are notorious for running hot). Temperatures stay fairly manageable (albeit higher than I'd prefer, and with a lot of fan noise whenever I do anything CPU-intensive) as long as I keep Turbo Boost disabled in BIOS, but if I enable Turbo Boost, the temps hit 100 Celcius within seconds of beginning to run a Prime95 test. For this reason, I want to remove the heatsink that came with it and install a better one.
What I want to know is what my best option is. I know that the obvious choice would be a VWMTJ, but while I'm sure that would be an improvement over what I have now, I'm inclined to believe that there are likely better options out there that probably provide even better cooling performance.
I don't want anything overly fancy or expensive (water coolers and such), but I want something that can keep my i7-7700K very cool even when performing CPU-intensive tasks (like rendering video in DaVinci Resolve) for many hours. I also want it to be small enough to allow me to access and replace my RAM sticks and to be able to upgrade my GPU. If possible, I'd also like the heatsink to come with pre-applied thermal paste, as I find the process of figuring out exactly how much paste to use and exactly how to position it very nerve-wracking. (I intend to use an ArctiClean kit to remove the current paste when removing my current heatsink.)
I've been looking at some of Noctua's options, using this list which specifies which of their heatsinks are compatible with an i7-7700K as as a guide:
https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-288
So far, this appears to me to be the most promising option (although it unfortunately comes with a tube of thermal paste rather than having it pre-applied):
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D12L-Low-Height-Dual-Tower-Cooler/dp/B09TB5KJ5V
This one is significantly cheaper and has pre-applied thermal paste, but I'm not sure if its cooling performance is good enough and I've heard that there have been complaints about it making a grinding noise:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPDD6GD/
From what I can tell, both of those come with multiple mounting brackets (known as the SecuFirm2 system) for mounting to different motherboards. I'm not 100% sure whether they include brackets compatible with my computer, but one of the brackets pictured on the boxes looks like the right type as far as I can tell.
There might also be better options that I'm unaware of.
What would likely be my best option?
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October 21st, 2023 11:03
The stock chassis system fan seems to be 92mm, which means you cannot replace it easily w a 120 mm liquid cooler. There are no mounting holes for a 120 mm radiator fan. You would need to mod the case to use a 120 mm liquid cooler which is pretty much the smallest liquid cooler. So the Dell premium air cooler comes down to be the best option. It is cheap on sale too
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275168070166?
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October 21st, 2023 01:20
tbh those are fancy tower coolers that are harder to install than the Dell premium cooler because of gigantic size of heatsink which may impair access to ram. If you prefer ease of installation and small foot print, then a Dell 120 mm or 240 mm AIO liquid cooler is better option which can keep the cpu cool. Dell uses M3 back plate. those fancy air cooler use their own backplate. you would need to remove the motherboard, somehow remove the Dell backplate (not trivial as you may need to remove the CPU ILM first). It is an adventure not necessarily worth embarking on.
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October 21st, 2023 02:47
Less chance of fan errors at startup if you use a/the Dell cooler.
It looks like some people upgraded the CPU without thinking about the cooler/heatsink.
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October 21st, 2023 03:32
@redxps630 I didn't realize that there was that wide of a compatibility gap. I definitely don't want to do anything as drastic as the motherboard removal, etc, that you described.
I can't find where to buy those Dell liquid coolers that you mentioned. Do you have any links? Are they much more expensive than Noctua's tower coolers and/or prone to leaks?
Are they much better than the VWMTJ? And are there any other (perhaps newer) Dell heatsinks (air-cooled or otherwise) that are backwards-compatible with my machine?
@bradthetechnut So am I correct in inferring that Dells often don't play well with third-party fans?
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October 21st, 2023 10:44
A 120 mm liquid cooler is cheaper than the high end Noctua ones I think, unless you find a used one on sale at much lower price than new stock. In general a high end fancy third party tower air cooler can cost upward close to 80-90 usd if it is indeed a high performance type. Dell did not design an AIO for Precision afaik, the AIO are for XPS and Alienware.
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October 21st, 2023 10:50
First find out if you have the 95 or 65w heatsink in it already. 65w no good. Needs to be at least 95w. Here are all coolers from Dell for 3620
Dell Precision Tower 3620 Heatsink(95W)
Радиатор Dell Precision Tower 3620 (80 Вт)
CHAS, MT, 5050, EPA, PLUM
Dell Precision Tower 3620 Heatsink (65W)
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October 21st, 2023 10:52
Use the service tag of pc go to Dell product support website, type in tag, then look up View Product Spec. Look for spec of heat sink originally shipped in this pc, assuming refurbisher has not changed original heatsink.
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October 21st, 2023 10:59
The 65w heatsink is a thin pancake, whereas the 95w is a thicker taller pancake. This pic of pc having i7-6700 cpu seems to have the thin 65w cooler
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October 22nd, 2023 02:26
@redxps630 I have the 65W one. It's what was originally included with the computer, but the refurbishers upgraded the CPU to an i7-7700K without also upgrading the heatsink.
I have now ordered the VWMTJ from the link you provided. Thank you for providing that link; I had no idea there were any still available new rather than used, especially for that low a price.
The only bad thing about that is that it doesn't come with pre-applied thermal paste, so there'll be guesswork involved regarding how much to put and in what pattern.
Do you have any recommendations for best brand/type of thermal paste to use and/or any good tutorials showing how best to apply it?
Also, do you know what the best type of removal kit for removing the current paste is? I've seen various kits that come with ArctiClean and various tools (sometimes a sort of plastic spatula, sometimes a lint-free cloth, etc). Although some people say they just use coffee filters and 91% isopropyl alcohol.
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October 22nd, 2023 04:26
Just 91% rubbing alcohol and any clean tissue paper.
no need to go fancy on thermal paste. You are not trying to break an overclock record.
apply only a small grain size like a grain of rice to center of cleaned cpu then mount the cooler on cpu in one motion, tighten 4 screws diagonally. If you accidentally lift up the cooler, then do it over again
the key is to let mounting of heatsink spread the paste to as thin a layer as possible to fill the microscopic imperfections of flat surface of cpu n heatsink. Dell factory almost always applies a thick layer which is a bad idea.
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October 22nd, 2023 05:23
@redxps630
What about this method of spreading the paste with a small specially-designed spatula? Could that help ensure an even application?
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October 22nd, 2023 15:01
no, that is not necessary. there are all kinds of school how to apply paste, some do multiple dots, some cross shaped. it is much ado about something very simple. just let the heatsink spread out the paste from one dot centrifugally. in the end common user experience does not make a difference as long as you are not doing something glaringly wrong. no need to split hair what is the best method here. move on to enjoy your pc.
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October 22nd, 2023 17:22
@redxps630 Is it necessary to make any changes in the BIOS, or should the new heatsink and its built-in fan be "plug and play"?
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October 22nd, 2023 23:04
Dell heat sink fan 65w, 95w, premium tower is plug n play. No bios change needed.
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October 22nd, 2023 23:41
@redxps630 Good. That's one less thing to worry about.
Thank for all of the advice. The heatsink and some Arctic MX-6 should be coming in this week. Hopefully the replacement process goes smoothly.