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January 18th, 2018 10:00

PCIe upgrade for Dell E6420?

I have two Dell Latitude E6420's. I am wondering if there is any way to use a M2 SSD hard drive on at least one of these? It is not that I particularly need the extra speed...but I like the idea of having it anyway. It is a case, I guess, of more time and money than common sense. I would like to find some way to be able to use an M2 device, with NVMe interface if possible. So...can a computer as old as the E6420 be upgraded in this way?

As an aside: I really love my E6420's:heart:

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January 18th, 2018 12:00

First, be careful with your terminology.  You titled this thread "PCIe upgrade" and then asked about M.2 slots.  The E6420 already has PCIe support, and in fact it even has a Mini-PCIe slot that would be used by your WiFi card -- so you're clearly not really asking about PCIe here.  Additionally, not all M.2 slots connect to PCIe.  Some only support SATA SSDs, whereas others support both SATA and NVMe/PCIe.

But no, if your motherboard doesn't have an M.2 slot, you can't add one.  And even if you had a system with an M.2 slot, if it only supported SATA and not NVMe/PCIe, there would be no way to fix that either.

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January 18th, 2018 12:00

Thanks for replying. I think what I am looking for is a way to install a PCLe NVMe SSD drive in my E6420 so that it would be my primary drive.

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January 18th, 2018 14:00

That can't be done.  NVMe has to be supported by the motherboard, so there's no way to add it.  Sorry!

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January 18th, 2018 16:00

Well if you haven't ever upgraded the disk in your E6420, even today's SATA-based SSDs such as the Samsung 850 would likely be appreciably faster than the hardware that was current when the E6420 was released, so that might tide you over until you're ready to upgrade to a system that supports NVMe SSDs.

P.S. I visit the Oregon Shakespeare Festival every year, so you're in good company. :)

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January 18th, 2018 16:00

Well, I feared that was the case and so, wounded though I may be, at least my wound is not compouned by surprise. I'm pretty sure I'll recover and be no worse for it....but if I were a gamer or a constant user of huge programs, my conditon would remain critical for as long as my speed need  should continue unmet. (Excuse me if this sounds a little magniloquent....I have been reading a lot of Shakespeare lately...it gets to you after a while.)

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January 18th, 2018 17:00

Thanks foir that tip. I looked at the 850 just now. Not bad--500gb for 139$  The drive I have now has 128gb. I may go for that. Or maybe an SSHD.  God have mercy...acronym after acronym and then more acronyms in this digital age!

As for Shekspeare...How sweet he is! (Jackie Gleason style).

 

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January 18th, 2018 19:00

Definitely do NOT get an SSHD.  Those are appreciably faster than regular spinning hard drives, but nowhere near as fast as a proper SSD.  SSHDs basically just have 8GB worth of SSD flash memory cache built into a spinning hard drive -- so it's fast if you're reading certain parts of the drive or writing some amounts of data, and of course it's a lot less expensive per GB than an SSD, but its performance will never be as high or as consistent as an SSD that's 100% flash memory.

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January 18th, 2018 19:00

I hear you. A better option might be to keep my little 128gb ssd and replace the cd player with an sshd configured to store browser downloads. I have read that this is doable. It would be quite a complex and subtle procedure for someone in my category...but I could probably rise to the occasion.
When push finally comes to shove I will probably get the 500gb Samsung....clone., swap,  and done!  I can use the 128 drive in an external hard drive enclosure. I'm beginning to see this set-up already in my mind's eye.

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January 18th, 2018 20:00

I went your latter route a while ago -- bought a new SSD and a USB enclosure for 2.5" drives, then I put my old drive into that enclosure.  In terms of replacing the optical drive, for at least some models, Dell actually made an accessory that was designed to fit the optical drive bay space but was designed to have a 2.5" drive installed into it, correctly positioned within the tray, with holes for screws, etc.  I found one example of it on Amazon so you can see how it looks, but there may be other places to get it: https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Caddy-Modular-original-Newmodeus/dp/B009OLHG30.  Just be aware that at least on some systems, the optical drive SATA connector is only 3 Gbps or maybe even only 1.5 Gbps, rather than 6 Gbps like the connector intended to support the hard drive, so you probably don't want to put your primary drive there.

Good luck!

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January 19th, 2018 16:00

Thanks for the link. I like the looks of that caddy. Its existence legitimizes the whole project. As for good luck...thanks for the wish. That's the thing about luck, the best you can do with it is to wish for it. Give it an order and, like a cat, it looks the other way. 

Well, We shall see. Thanks much for the info and advice. SSD all the way for me.

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November 13th, 2021 11:00

I'm sorry I'm a little late to the party but I'm inquiring the same thing I just purchased a Dell E6420 xfr that comes with a one terabyte SSD with Windows10 pro currently installed on it and I'm curious as to whether or not I could install a MSATA or PCIe replacement to that hard drive physically attached to the motherboard on either the mini mylar or wann Mylar slots that are available and be able to boot windows from it and whether or not there would be any performance gains from doing so. So I guess my main question is what is faster the SATA SSD 2 and 1/2 in versus the mini Mylar connection and the WANN connection which I believe is PCIe And what would be the appropriate method to use regarding performance gains with what the e6420 has to offer.

 

 

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November 14th, 2021 06:00

I used to have a E6430 and installed an SSD in it well prior to upgrading to a different computer.  The 6420/6430 series is SATA only and it will not, to my knowledge, support an M2 SSD or NVMe drive.  The only SSDs one can use in the 6420/6430 is a 2.5" format SATA drive.  There are a good number of these out there; the one I recommend is a Samsung 870 EVO SATA III SSD.  They are available in capacities up to 1 or 2 Tb, as far as I know.

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November 16th, 2021 06:00

Welcome to the Dell Community @Robby.niemi 

Sorry but I would stick with the SSD you already have installed and 16GB of memory.

Tested two mSATA drives in the WWAN slot.

The BIOS did not see them and W10 did not.

E6420 WWAN#3.PNG

Then I tried to install them in the "Mini Mylar" and they would not fit.

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So that's why I say stick with the 1TB SSD already installed and max out the memory to 16GB.

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December 12th, 2023 20:45

@jphughan​  use convertor like rom shape i have i using nvm2 on dell 6420 very fast response but now i cant able to use cd rom any more

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