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March 7th, 2011 03:00

Keyboard error in windows

I have a Dell Latitude D630 where the keyboard does not work when it has finished loading windows but it works well enough in the BIOS.

Nor in Safe Mode.

The running windows xp sp3

Hope there is someone who can help.

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March 7th, 2011 03:00

I also tried with external keyboard and it does not work.

And the mouse does not work either.

297 Posts

March 7th, 2011 03:00

Run  the diagnostics. Select the options to test an indivudual component. And test the mouse, both the Trackpoint and the Synaptics. Then run the test for all the keyboard keys.

If you can't do this from the onboard diagnostics then download the CD ISO image from the Dell site, write it to a good quality CD-R and then boot the CD.

Is all ok?

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March 7th, 2011 04:00

I can not get it to fail in testing, so everything is ok there.:emotion-40:

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March 7th, 2011 05:00

Well if the diags say the keyboard and the trackpoint are ok. And also that the Synaptics is ok. Then the issue lies with Windows.

Use F2 on power on to get to the bios setup. Navigate to maintenance and select the option to load default values. Then save and exit. And this might be obvious but eject your laptop from any docking station first.

That is a long shot, if it does not work then you need to get to device manager in Windows and delete the keyboard and mouse. And restart; upon restart the keyboard should be re-discovered and also the mouse. At least the basic Microsoft PS2 mouse as distinct from the Synaptics version. Then re-install the Synaptics drivers.

How to do this with no working  keyboard and mouse is a mystery? So I suggest you boot the XP CD and try to launch the recovery console. Seem to me that the registry might be corrupt or the hard drive is failing. So try to run chkdsk /R on the C: drive from the recovery console prompt. That will take several hours depending on disk size.

If that finds nothing you might be able to use the recovery console to revert back to a restore point prior to when the problem occured.

You could also remove the hard drive and attach it to another working computer, via a SATA to USB adapter and run chkdsk /R from there. And use the opportunity to back  up everyrhing on the hard drive.

I say that because you may end up having to do a clean install. So I would get a backup before going any further.

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March 7th, 2011 06:00

I would just add that assuming your D630 has 2GB or more of ram then I would seriously consider upgrading to Windows 7. Windows 7 64 bit (or 32 bit) runs very well on these laptops, even with 2GB of ram. 4GB is a bit better but is more icing than cake. And if you want a bigger hard drive then get a Hitachi, Seagate or Western Digital 7200 rpm  9.5mm high SATA with 16Mb cache.

In some repects these systems are faster, or at least as fast for most purposes, than  some newer systems.

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March 8th, 2011 07:00

C:\>chkdsk e: /R /F
The type of the file system is NTFS.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 5)...
  93920 file records processed.
File verification completed.
  1071 large file records processed.
  0 bad file records processed.
  0 EA records processed.
  2 reparse records processed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 5)...
  105258 index entries processed.
Index verification completed.
  0 unindexed files scanned.
  0 unindexed files recovered.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 5)...
  93920 file SDs/SIDs processed.
Security descriptor verification completed.
  5670 data files processed.
CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
  1208408 USN bytes processed.
Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
  93904 files processed.
File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
  118170556 free clusters processed.
Free space verification is complete.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.

  78148160 KB total disk space.
  18853440 KB in 85399 files.
     29064 KB in 5671 indexes.
         0 KB in bad sectors.
    180378 KB in use by the system.
     65536 KB occupied by the log file.
  59085278 KB available on disk.

       512 bytes in each allocation unit.
 156296321 total allocation units on disk.
 118170556 allocation units available on disk.

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March 8th, 2011 07:00

So the hard drive appears ok. However chkdsk corrected some file system corruption. So I suspect your registry files might have been damaged. When you re-instate the drive do the keyboard and mouse work in Windows safe mode? Can you delete the keyboard from the system and let it re-discover?

If not you will have to boot into the recovery console from the XP CD and see can you revert to a date prior to when the problem first appeared, using a restore point.

Although there are other methods of recovery, thay are quite complicated and beyond the scope of this forum. Sometimes the quickest and easiest thing to do is a clean install of Windows. I hope you have a backup.

 

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March 9th, 2011 04:00

For info I have taken a backup.

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March 9th, 2011 04:00

It does not work after it has run chkdsk

I have found out that I can access it via RDC.

I can not get it to install the driver, although it writes that it has installed drivers.

297 Posts

March 9th, 2011 07:00

Did you reset your bios to default values? If not, then tap the F2 key when you see the Dell logo at power-on. Enter the bios and find the option to load default values. Then save and exit. The system will spend longer than normal on the Dell screen when it restarts.

(I note that you have an Alps driver for the mouse. Surely the driver is Synaptics? Where did the Alps driver come from?)

When the system restarts press tap the F8 key and get into safe mode. If the mouse and keyboard still do not work, then restart and do what ever you did before to get in. Use device manager to delete the Alps mouse driver and restart. If your mouse is rediscovered as a standard Microsoft mouse then do the same thing for the keyboard.

I mean delete or uninstall  the device as distinct from reinstalling the driver.

If that does not work then use the device manager to update the driver and then manually select standard Microsoft mouse. And restart.

If all that does not work then you either have an as yet unidentified hardware issue that is interfering with the mouse and keyboard, as diags say these are ok. Or your system registry is corrupted.

Overall I think you might be best off with a clean install of XP. Otherwise you could spend days trying to track this down. Make sure you have any Microsoft Office install keys or install keys for any other propriety software.

Bear in mind my prior comments about these laptops and Windows 7. If I had to do a re-install I would install Windows 7 Professional 64 bit. Latitude D630s run this quite well so it is worth the investment.

297 Posts

March 9th, 2011 07:00

Update to my post above. I have extracted the files from the Dell XP mouse driver and they are indeed Alps.

Everthing else still stands. Try to delete or unstall the Alps driver. And get the generic Microsoft installed. To see does that fix the issue.

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