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February 7th, 2017 08:00

Dell Dimension 1100 Upgrades?

Hello,

This is my first post here searching for some information... Anyway I know there have been previous topics in the past about this Dinosaur of a computer but nothing in the recent past that I could find and many of the old suggestions on this topic are no longer in stock anywhere. So I have a handful of questions:

1) is there a PCI graphics card out there to purchase that is considered an upgrade from the built in graphics card? Preferably one with HDMI.

  • If not, I was searching online and found a PCI express to PCI adapter on Amazon that should allow me to use a PCIe graphics card in this older PCI slot? But want to know realistically if this would work...

2) I'm planning on using this old PC as a media center so watching for example Live Streaming Tv, Videos that I have on a USB external hard drive, etc. Would the current graphics card be able to handle this if there isn't a viable upgrade?

Any Tips on Upgrading this computer would greatly be appreciated as I'm looking to max out the specs as much as possible. Thanks in advance for your input.

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February 11th, 2017 23:00

And you think they'd still be producing defective GPUs today?

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February 12th, 2017 04:00

Any card using an 8400 or 8600 GPU is upwards of a decade old and used - not new.  I made no reference to new cards -- there are none using these GPUs.

Later nVidia GPUs have been fine.  The G84 and G86 GPUs were awful - and well known for failing early.  

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February 13th, 2017 07:00

You can still buy PCI cards but the cost of them is more than a newer system with PCI-E and DDR2 or DDR3 ram.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129190

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAA8S4AJ3285

 

 

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February 13th, 2017 09:00

Any card using an 8400 or 8600 GPU is upwards of a decade old and used - not new.

8400GS cards are still sold new on Newegg.

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February 13th, 2017 09:00

Any card using an 8400 or 8600 GPU is upwards of a decade old and used - not new.  

Have you checked Newegg recently? :emotion-4:

EVGA GeForce 8400 GS

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February 13th, 2017 11:00

I did not find even 1 version that was PCI however only PCI-E versions.

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February 13th, 2017 12:00

The OP is Dell Dimension 1100 Upgrades?  PCI-E does not apply or work in these systems.  That is the point.  I also do not believe that 8XXX Geforce chips were ever fixed so that means the cards will fail and the $50 to $100 prices for these ancient cards is not worth buying.  You could even move the hard drive from the 2300 into a GX620 and copy the data from the old to the new.

Good Radeon 6450  2gig  cards are $50 or less and 500 percent faster Directx 11 cards not Legacy Directx 10/9 cards with 512 megs.

Thats why I listed the PCI Radeon 3450 which can still be had at newegg but again based on the price of the "upgrades" to this VACCUUM Tube system you can get a newer GX 620,745,755,760,780 with windows 7 or even windows 10 and without

any upgrades they will be 5 to 25 times faster.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/420065323

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/174625899

 

 

 

 

 

 

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February 13th, 2017 12:00

That wasn't the point, which was that the 8400GS is still being sold.

Amazon lists a GT210 PCI as being in-stock, but at $67 before shipping, it costs more than I paid for an two-and-a-half-year-old OptiPlex 3020 SFF barebones.

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February 13th, 2017 13:00

The OP is Dell Dimension 1100 Upgrades?

It went off-topic, to the reliability of the 8400 and its production status.

You could even move the hard drive from the 2300 into a GX620 and copy the data from the old to the new.

For that matter, the existing install could be made to run in a GX620, but that is also an ancient machine.

Used OptiPlex 3020 SFFs with Win 10 Pro are available on eBay for $150, and they're under three years old.

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February 14th, 2017 03:00

GX620 is not ancient because it will take Pentium D915 to D960 This means it runs MSDOS to Windows 10 64 bit Just fine.  And because it has PCI-E slot and DDR2 its fast enough to be viable even today.

I never recommend any machine that isnt a tower that can use a regular EPS12v power supply.


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February 14th, 2017 21:00

GX620 is not ancient because it will take Pentium D915 to D960

It's ancient and even updating it with a D960 will still have the CPU bottlenecked. The D960 is about equal with a Conroe E6300, and that's no champ.  

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February 15th, 2017 04:00

For many of the people I help the 620 is good enough to run their kids games, and netflix, and email and facebook etc.   The GX620 with Radeon 6450 or better is fine for most things.  Investing in a PCI-E video card and Newer Sata Drive is easy.    Its not bottlenecked enough to be a problem even for blueray when you have a GPU and max out the ram at 4 gigs.  My local shop still has 620 towers and they sell them for $39 with linux and $99 with windows 7 or 10.  The 620 is the low end of the

series 620, 745, 755, 760, 780. 960, 980 etc.   Where I am GOV and Schools surplused thousands of them in favor of newer units.   I recently helped several people source pentium D 945 for $9 and upgraded copper heatsink for these.  The other reason I favor the 620 is that I can clone an IDE drive onto sata drive and reboot and keep XP and programs etc.  Then upgrade to vista home or vista business then windows 7 retaining programs and documents etc.    For some a complete reinstall is too traumatic.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-3-40GHz-800MHz-Dual-Core/dp/B000YDLNGS

 

Compared to the Dimension 1100 or 3000 or Optiplex 240 260 170 the GX620 is a screamer.

Hard Drive and Video upgrades can be migrated to newer systems.

Precision T3400's can use the ram if they start out with DDR2 6400.

The next step up is a T3500.

T3400's with windows 7 are $149 at my used computer shop.

I tend to help people buy what they can afford and upgrade them incrementally.   These are folks that have lots of kids and demands for computers but not a lot of money.

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February 15th, 2017 06:00

Wow I really appreciate all the information here I'm learning a lot. I am curious is there a way or a website that you can put in the actual model of computer you have and find compatible Upgrades?

Also just a few notes after I upgraded the 1100 with more ram, and the graphics card it still runs a bit slow and freezes up completely when trying to do more than one task at a time. Example I started a video off of a USB but the sound wasn't loud enough so turned it up while video was still going and it completely froze and had to restart using the power button but when I pause the video and turn up sound it doesn't freeze seemed odd.

Anyway so I bought a different PC which is why I'm curious if theres a place a newbie can go to see compatible upgrades... if not you'll probably see a new post in about a week once I get the PC.

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February 15th, 2017 07:00

Upgrades for the 1100 are always going to be slow.  The board I posted replaces the 1100 socket 478 DDR system with DDR2 or DDR3  LGA 775 processor board with PCI-E video not 32 bit 33mhz pci.  Upgrades added to a GX620 can be migrated forward into newer systems. Aka the Radeon 6450 PCI-E can be used in newer systems up to and including the newest systems.  Newer systems with windows 7 or even 10 are to be had for the cost of windows.

These systems even without any upgrades are 500 percent faster than the 1100 can ever be.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/55099006

 

 

 

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February 15th, 2017 12:00

Thanks SpeedStep I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is, is there a website where I can go type in for example Dell 760 and see compatible Upgrades?

Thanks

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