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January 9th, 2023 18:00

Aurora R11 and RTX 4090. Is it possible?

Alienware Aurora R11

Alienware Aurora R11

Basically I am an advanced video editor I grabbed the Aurora R11 a couple years ago with the 2080 super installed and have just capped out on my capabilities as a video editor working on visual effects. Without upgrading my PC completely ( as I am currently running a I9 processor ,64gb ram ,8tb storage with a rtx 2080 super 8gb.) I am looking and ready to upgrade just not sure what will fit inside. I have looked at the size of the 4090 in mm and it seems much bigger than my current 2080. I've read some things on reddit that maybe a fan upgrade would save some space but how would I know what will really fit? My guess is just trial and error? I hope it is possible but the 3090 will have to due worst case. If anyone has any tips or suggestions that would be very helpful. Thanks so much. 

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January 10th, 2023 22:00

If you want the RTX 3090Ti or 4090 then I am going to vote with your friend and suggest you get a new case (not necessarily Phanteks). To make your life easier you should also consider a new motherboard, as the Aurora motherboard has much proprietary nonsense. A new motherboard would also open up all of the options for your new CPU . . . and you might as well get a new 1000+ watt PSU. It might sound scary, but if you choose your components wisely, building a new computer is pretty much a snap together Lego kit. Cutting a hole in your chassis is just not a good option.

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January 9th, 2023 19:00

The 3090 was geared towards production while the 4090 was designed for gamers. So if you are primarily using it for productivity, the 3090 is the better choice as it will be cheaper. The 4090 will not fit in the R11. That is a massive card both in length and width, it now takes up 3 slots.

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January 9th, 2023 19:00

Your max graphics card length is 267mm (10.5") without case modification. The nVidia RTX 3080Ti Founders Edition (285mm) will fit if you replace the lower front fan and bracket with a 15mm fan (no bracket). The RTX 3090 Founders Edition is 313mm long, so you would need to cut a hole in the chassis and hang about 15mm of graphics card outside. Any 3000 Series graphics card will be much smaller on a water block. If you are able to find a Dell OEM 3090 . . . of course that would fit.

January 10th, 2023 21:00

Thank you! Excuse my lack of knowledge  - is my current 2080 inside my R11 only 2 slots? How can I find out if my board has 2 or 3 slots? If my board doesn't I am in bad shape lol  Please let me know if you can. Thank you again.

January 10th, 2023 21:00

The other guy who commented on this post said that these new cards are 3 slots, and I am not sure if my R11 board has 3 slots? Do you know? or know how I could find this out?

IF I am able to purchase the 3090TI or the 4090 those will be my two choices. I realize either will not fit so I am fully prepared to cut a hole. My friend recommended I purchase a Phanteks case and just transfer everything over but that scares the %^*# out of me. Cutting a hole I realize I will also run into problems and be careful with static. IF I do go that route, you suggest a ESD bracelet? I appreciate you so much.

January 10th, 2023 22:00

I appreciate that. While I have you, any recommendations on a motherboard and power supply? Although a wizard with some software, I am newer to the hardware side of things so all the knowledge really does help.

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January 11th, 2023 05:00

First decide which CPU you want to use, then choose a motherboard with the appropriate socket, and any other features you need. I am partial to MSI, but ASUS and ASRock also make a good board. For PSU I like Corsair, but EVGA is also good. Don't under-buy on wattage . . . the incremental cost to add more power is not significant. As with many things, research up front will save you time and money throughout the project.

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January 11th, 2023 06:00

Sorry for the confusion. What I meant was that the RTX 4090 is so wide that it takes up the space of three slots in the computer. If you put a 4090 inside your Aurora, you would find that it is so wide that it would not fit inside the Aurora case no matter what you tried. Take a look at this picture and you'll immediately notice how WIDE the 4090 is. It is like stacking 3 graphics cards on top of each other.

To clarify, the RTX 3090 was designed for professionals but gamers bought them for the 24GB of VRAM. The RTX 3090Ti was introduced for gamers because it was an overclocked 3090. The RTX 4090 was primarily built for gaming. But you can use it for production work but why would you since there are cheaper options? If you are NOT into gaming, the RTX 3090 is the best choice.

January 11th, 2023 13:00

You guys are both absolute legends. Thank you for all the help. I will look into those components for my next purchase. 

if you were ever curious here is my work www.instagram.com/flowermouthfilms

 

its amazing what you can push a 2080 to do lol 

 

love yall

January 11th, 2023 13:00

I agree with what ProfessorW00d said. If I were you, I might save up for an Asus TUF tower and other TUF components for the said "advanced video" editing work.

The R11 might support your 4090 poorly. You might end up having abysmal FPS because of the motherboard's limits on PCIe, SATA, and CPU data transfer rates. R11 also doesn't have the high speed RAMs that the RTX 4090 appreciates. The inadequate CPU liquid cooling system might cause your CPU to overheat once you have a 4090 installed.

 

 

 

 

 

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January 13th, 2023 02:00

"4090 was designed for gamers"

-designed for gamers
-costs >2000$

pick one.

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January 13th, 2023 07:00

Why is it not recommended? How would your professional work know that it is being done inside a giant plastic shroud?

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January 13th, 2023 07:00

RTX 4080, 3080, 3090 etc... are all designed for desktop use aka gamers.

For professional workstation use the RTX 6000, 5500, 5000 series are recommended in a workstation environment.

 

While you can use an Aurora model to perform some professional work, it's not recommended.

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January 13th, 2023 09:00

Because the cards are designed for specific tasks. Same reason why gaming on a 6000 card is not recommended and you actually end up with poor performance compared to a 4090 or even 4080 cards. Same reason why you never see 6000 cards benchmarks in a lineup with consumer cards.

There's also the issue with the underlying hardware. With a professional workstation you have workstation grade components and sub systems designed for workstation applications.

 

I am not saying you cannot perform those tasks on an Aurora system, you can. I am just saying it's not the best choice for workstation or "professional" use.  If that is your main reason for having an Aurora than a professional workstation would be a better choice.

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