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July 12th, 2020 04:00
Suspend and hibernate issues on XPS 15 9500 on Linux
Hi, I've just received my new XPS 15 9500 and installed Arch linux on it (kernel 5.7.7). Most functionalities are working but I'm having issues with suspend and hibernation.
Default suspend behavior is s2idle, which drains a lot of battery for my use case (sleep for the night). So as suggested in the arch wiki for the previous XPS 15 model, I've changed it to deep sleep (S3). Now, after going to sleep, the computer is unable to restart, I have to force shutdown with a long press on the power button.
So I figured I could hibernate instead. The issue is that the computer systematically wakes up after a few seconds, so this is not usable. I've tried without success to toggle the /proc/acpi/wakeup entries to prevent wakeup.
I suppose this must be a BIOS or kernel issue and cannot find any solution to this. Has anyone found a solution for that? What should I do to better diagnose the issue?


herrwamm
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August 16th, 2020 23:00
Sorry, maybe I was wrong. Probably this is a hardware issue or BIOS limitation.
andre_p
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August 26th, 2020 14:00
Hi,
just wanted to ask if anybody had more luck with suspend to RAM on the XPS 15 9500?
Meanwhile, I've tried the current stable kernel 5.8.4 (https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.8.4/ ) but without any luck. Basically the same behaviour, the system wouldn't wake up.
Thanks
Andre
Mattpiz
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August 27th, 2020 01:00
Hi, no luck on my side for true S3 deep sleep either. I've used the Dell cctk tool with the --SleepMode=ForceS3 option though (while keeping the s2idle param for the linux kernel). It doesn't make it a true S3 sleep, but consumes less battery than previously. In the end I'm juggling between suspend and hibernate depending on the moments.
andre_p
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August 28th, 2020 12:00
Hey,
I am not familiar with the cctk tool you've mentioned. I only found Windows instructions for it. Is there a Linux version of it?
Anyway, I am also back to s2idle mode which works somehow with the stock Ubuntu 20.04 kernel. It so sad that Dell is so unsupportive on that side. With the hours I've spent on this the laptop, which surely isn't cheap, has multiplied its price for me.
Hope to see some that working at some stage soon.
Cheers
Andre
Mattpiz
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August 28th, 2020 13:00
Hi, here is where I found out about that tool: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/guhz5f/xps_15_9500_s3_deep_sleep_not_working/
You can download version 4.3 for Ubuntu on this page: https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-us/sln311302/dell-command-configure?lang=en
andre_p
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August 29th, 2020 02:00
Hey,
thanks for the link. I'll give the CCTK tool a shot. The Reddit discussion confirms that its not a Ubuntu issue. I was about to try another distro to see if they have a fix for it but it doesn't make sense. Note that I've tried vanilla 5.8.4 without much luck. Hopefully, the Dell folks will pick this up and provide a fix for it rather sooner than later.
Thanks
Andre
zachsawcs
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September 21st, 2020 21:00
This does *not* just happen on Linux. I can reproduce the bug on Windows too with the latest BIOS version v1.4.0.
With the Precision 5550, this happens on Linux (tested on Ubuntu) and Windows with S3 enabled (S0 disabled to allow laptop to actually sleep properly) - i.e. activate S3 Sleep https://superuser.com/a/1539097
When the laptop sleeps, it exhibits the same problem as it does on Linux. Wakes up to Dell logo / blank screen if preboot behavior is set to disable sign of life.
Confirmed to be BIOS bug. Precision 5550 is a business class laptop - this needs to be fixed ASAP.
Raistolo
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September 22nd, 2020 04:00
@DELL-Jesse L while I do understand that there is "limited support" for specific Linux quirks, this is likely a fundamental issue in the BIOS for this model, since it's affecting every Linux distribution and is not solved by any of the workarounds for previous models.
As Linux compatibility is one of the selling features of Dell laptops (surely it's the reason why we buy them), probably this is something worth escalating/investigating.
Anyway FWIW I reconfirm what has been said in this thread, and that the suggested workarounds here and following the links do not in fact fix the issue.
Running a 5.8 kernel and BIOS 1.4.0 (released a few days ago).
zachsawcs
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September 23rd, 2020 00:00
Bump. Can you let us know when the fix will be ready? @Anonymous @DELL-Cares
Tolga Balci
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September 23rd, 2020 17:00
I have similar issues on the XPS 17" 9700. I press the power button a single time to put the laptop to sleep. Immediately the screen turns off and after a few seconds so does the keyboard backlight. All good right? No. After I bag it and go somewhere half an hour away, I find that the laptop is hot in my laptop bag and the batter has drained nearly 10%. Happens over and over. I don't want to hibernate, because it takes a very long time to get back to working mode.
Also annoying is that there is not indication on the laptop whether it is on or in sleep mode. Sometimes the light bar in front of the laptop is on (I think when plugged in), but otherwise, you have not clue. Why not use the front light bar and slowly pulse on and off to indicate sleep mode? That would be fantastic.
Fantastic laptop... but a few little details definitely take away from the experience.
zachsawcs
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September 23rd, 2020 19:00
Raistolo
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September 24th, 2020 00:00
What @Tolga Balci is describing is s2sleep, not s3 (deep sleep). And yes, it is also pretty broken, drains battery and overheats the machine.
zachsawcs
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September 27th, 2020 19:00
Bump.
@Anonymouscan you please provide a status update regarding this issue please.
dsarch
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September 29th, 2020 12:00
Hello,
I have exactly the same problem in Ubuntu/PopOS/Archlinux and I tested with Kernels from OEM, to 5.8 to 5.9, so indeed, it seems like a problem that should be address in the BIOS.
Can we have a fix for it, Dell? I would like to love this laptop, but this issue is a complete deal breaker for me and I'm telling all my friends to avoid getting it while this issue is not fixed.
zachsawcs
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October 15th, 2020 19:00
So far they've refused to even acknowledge that this is a problem. They built the laptop for Windows only. The Linux community is so small they don't give a hoot about us.