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January 10th, 2007 04:00

"No pre-installed" should mean "no pre-installed"

I just wanted to make an observation...

It's unfortunate that Dell really can't get its collective heads around the idea of "no pre-installed software". That's what I ordered, that's what it says on the order confirmation and even on the packing list.

Of course, to Dell that apparently means "install the same software, just time-limited demo versions."

Especially McAfee. Brrr. Like to smack someone upside the head for that one.

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January 10th, 2007 14:00

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January 10th, 2007 20:00

Yeah, It is almost becoming pre-installed Malware...  McAfee is horrid software..
 
Lucky for you you know how to use regedit..  How many entries did you find??
 
 
AOL puts over 900 registry entries in XP, I use an old registry cleaner called JV16 v1.2  used to be free, hey guy sold the software, but you can still find the old v1.2 floating around, Google does not find it easily, but dogpile does..
 
http://www.pctip.ch/downloads/dl/23227.asp   get version 1.2  higher versions are pre expired upon install or need registartion. 1.2 is the last free version...

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January 10th, 2007 20:00



@mombodog wrote:
Made just for you





The "de-crapifier" mostly works, I have no complaints with it. Especially since it's free. :)

But it doesn't completely clean off the disaster that is McAfee. Neither does their own uninstaller, neither does the stand-alone utility McAfee provides for when the uninstaller fails.

Hand editing the Registry and manual file deletion is required to clean off McAfee's deliberate hiding of parts of their crapware.

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January 11th, 2007 16:00



@mombodog wrote:
Yeah, It is almost becoming pre-installed Malware... McAfee is horrid software..
Lucky for you you know how to use regedit.. How many entries did you find??
AOL puts over 900 registry entries in XP, I use an old registry cleaner called JV16 v1.2 used to be free, hey guy sold the software, but you can still find the old v1.2 floating around, Google does not find it easily, but dogpile does..
http://www.pctip.ch/downloads/dl/23227.asp get version 1.2 higher versions are pre expired upon install or need registartion. 1.2 is the last free version...





Not a big deal... just a couple of Registry entries and one hidden binary.

My new E520 is all shiny now... Windows partition cleaned up and shrunk and OpenSUSE installed on it. :)

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January 11th, 2007 17:00

How do you like Open Suse?

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January 11th, 2007 21:00



@mombodog wrote:
How do you like Open Suse?





So far, it's very slick. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Debian user on my existing machines, but I'm not going to install that on any new computers. Ubuntu feels very rough and unfinished to me, and we won't even talk about Fedora.

So it was OpenSuSE. I may end up buying SLED... haven't decided yet.
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