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March 11th, 2018 18:00

OptiPlex 7050, Windows 10, after login, black screen with mouse cursor

Hi All,

Hoping someone here has run into the same issue. I have installed 3 OptiPlex 7050's this week and have run into the same issue on all of them.

The local account created when first setting up the machine works well and has no issues. We use this accout to do the initial setup of the machine and install software etc before taking the machine onsite. The machines are fully updated (Dell Command) and all Windows Updates are applied. I then take them onsite and I have created a new local user account on each machine for the user to use (they are on a workgroup so local account required). All goes well and I can install software, printers etc and the users can work as per normal.

The issue we have seen happens the next day regardless of whether the machine goes to sleep or is shut down. I have tried all the fixes on google that mention the black screen with a mouse cursor after login on Windows 10 but none of them resolved the issue.

What did resolve the issue was  a post on the HP forums and a reddit post that mentioned the App Readiness service and delayed logins. Those posts stated the desktop eventually will show up after 5 - 10 minutes. This has not been the case for me, the desktop never shows up. Disbaling the App Readiness service then rebooting works to show the desktop and next login but there is a side effect of this, none of the built in windows 10 apps work, eg calculator etc do not launch and all and the store does not open either.

Has anyone else had the issue with the black screen after login and have you found a solution rather than a workaround to solve the problem. The lack of built in apps is a problem.

Hoping someone here can help.

Thanks.

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April 26th, 2018 01:00


@Ralph Sanchezwrote:

Dell-AlanD,

Since you said that you're replying individually, could you please reply to me as well? I posted in a separate thread with a very similar, and seemingly related, issue:

https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-10/Windows-10-s-Microsoft-Store-broken-for-domain-user-accounts/m-p/6057804#M11879

 


Hi Ralph, 

This is the suggested solution I posted in the thread.

1. Try the fix below, I have reworded one command statement as I believe it may have been causing the fix to not execute correctly
2. Reinstall the OS using the Dell recovery media from the support site, not the recovery partition
3. Reinstall the OS using the Microsoft Windows 10 image

Here is the latest revision of the steps to apply the fix. It is imperative that all steps are followed correctly

1. Disable the App Readiness Service (wsappx)
In the run box type msconfig. Go to the services tab and disable App Readiness (uncheck all except App Readiness and then tap the disable button)
2. Restart the machine
3. Open an elevated powershell (Windows Key + X)
In the taskbar type powershell. Right click on it and select Run as Administrator. Accept the UAC prompt
4. Type the following command - Get-AppxPackage *office* | Remove-AppxPackage and hit enter
5. Renable the App Readiness Service as per step 1
6. Restart the machine
Once this is completed, the Office hub will be “blank” (the tiles in start menu) and they can be unpinned from the Start Menu.

Alan

April 26th, 2018 04:00


@Dell-Alan Dwrote:

@rrosati-totalsolutions.comwrote:

@Dell-Alan Dwrote:

Hi all, 

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. After some investigation from our engineer teams it would appear the issue is being caused by conflicting installs of Microsoft Office. Can you try the following as a workaround and let me know if it resolves the issue for you:-

1. Disable the App Readiness Service (wsappx)
In the run box type msconfig. Go to the services tab and disable App Readiness (uncheck all except App Readiness and then tap the disable button)
2. Restart the machine
3. Open an elevated powershell
In the taskbar type powershell. Right click on it and select Run as Administrator. Accept the UAC prompt
4. Type the following command -Run Get-AppxPackage *office* | Remove-AppxPackage
5. Renable the App Readiness Service as per step 1
6. Restart the machine

Once this is completed, the Office hub will be “blank” (the tiles in start menu)  and they can be unpinned from the Start Menu.

Alan


Alan,

We found this suggestion previously and tried it with no luck. Just tried it again on an affected machine. It seems that the issue itself is related to the AppX Deployment Service being messed up. When we run the Powershell command, it just hangs on "Deployment operation progress: Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_17.8830........" and under that line it says "Initialized". But it stays like that forever and never does anything.

 

It looks like other users are reporting this same issue in this thread: https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-10/Windows-10-s-Microsoft-Store-broken-for-domain-user-accounts/td-p/6057804

 

 


That sounds like there could be an issue with your group policy account. Try the steps as outlined here and then rerun the steps I listed above.

Alan


Alan,

We tried this "Allow deployment operations in special profiles to Enabled" policy setting on a few machines (across different domains/environment). It didn't help with the PowerShell command getting stuck on Initialized.

Ryan

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April 26th, 2018 06:00


@rrosati-totalsolutions.comwrote:

@Dell-Alan Dwrote:

@rrosati-totalsolutions.comwrote:

@Dell-Alan Dwrote:

Hi all, 

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. After some investigation from our engineer teams it would appear the issue is being caused by conflicting installs of Microsoft Office. Can you try the following as a workaround and let me know if it resolves the issue for you:-

1. Disable the App Readiness Service (wsappx)
In the run box type msconfig. Go to the services tab and disable App Readiness (uncheck all except App Readiness and then tap the disable button)
2. Restart the machine
3. Open an elevated powershell
In the taskbar type powershell. Right click on it and select Run as Administrator. Accept the UAC prompt
4. Type the following command -Run Get-AppxPackage *office* | Remove-AppxPackage
5. Renable the App Readiness Service as per step 1
6. Restart the machine

Once this is completed, the Office hub will be “blank” (the tiles in start menu)  and they can be unpinned from the Start Menu.

Alan


Alan,

We found this suggestion previously and tried it with no luck. Just tried it again on an affected machine. It seems that the issue itself is related to the AppX Deployment Service being messed up. When we run the Powershell command, it just hangs on "Deployment operation progress: Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_17.8830........" and under that line it says "Initialized". But it stays like that forever and never does anything.

 

It looks like other users are reporting this same issue in this thread: https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-10/Windows-10-s-Microsoft-Store-broken-for-domain-user-accounts/td-p/6057804

 

 


That sounds like there could be an issue with your group policy account. Try the steps as outlined here and then rerun the steps I listed above.

Alan


Alan,

We tried this "Allow deployment operations in special profiles to Enabled" policy setting on a few machines (across different domains/environment). It didn't help with the PowerShell command getting stuck on Initialized.

Ryan


Hi Ryan, 

I'm not sure if this will help but you could try the steps outlined here to try and reset Powershell. Ultimately, you may have to reinstall from the recovery media to resolve issues with Powershell.

Alan

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April 26th, 2018 08:00

I've been working with MS on this issue. Today the engineer had a KB that fixed the problem. Hopefully it works for everyone else too!

 

http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4093105 

 

-Jon

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April 27th, 2018 01:00

Did you do anything else beside running the update to fix the issue?

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April 27th, 2018 02:00

Hi all, 

Microsoft have released an update that should resolve the issue with the conflicting app installers and the black screen. More info can be found here

Here is the link to the available downloads for multiple platforms - 

http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4093105

I look forward to hearing if this resolves the issues.

Alan

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April 27th, 2018 06:00

Would like to know as well does installing the Patch from the MS Catalog solve the problem for the profile on reboot. Or id you require any additional steps, like deleting the user profile first ?

 

Thanks

 

 

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April 27th, 2018 11:00

The April 23, 2018—KB4093105 Cumulative Update solves this issue!

All that is needed is to download the update here:

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4093105

Login as a local PC admin account and install. TIP: (Before you restart, ensure if you disabled "App Readiness" service during trouble shooting that you set it back to "Manual" start.)

After restart, I logged back in as local admin and updated the store and verified all updates worked correctly.

Signed out and back in as Domain user profile and waited for Windows Store to update or manually Open Store and click Downloads and Updates -> Get Updates.

 

All profiles I tested worked without needing to recreated or delete.

Hope this works for you as well, Cheers!

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April 30th, 2018 00:00


@ScottMcDwrote:

The April 23, 2018—KB4093105 Cumulative Update solves this issue!

All that is needed is to download the update here:

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4093105

Login as a local PC admin account and install. TIP: (Before you restart, ensure if you disabled "App Readiness" service during trouble shooting that you set it back to "Manual" start.)

After restart, I logged back in as local admin and updated the store and verified all updates worked correctly.

Signed out and back in as Domain user profile and waited for Windows Store to update or manually Open Store and click Downloads and Updates -> Get Updates.

 

All profiles I tested worked without needing to recreated or delete.

Hope this works for you as well, Cheers!


Hi Scott, 

Thanks for confirming the resolve and the steps you have taken to ensure it was successful. Hopefully others will confirm the fix too.

Alan

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April 30th, 2018 01:00

Hi all, 

Thanks to @ScottMcD for the feedback and confirming the Microsoft fix resolves the issue. As per his post, please ensure that AppReadiness is running before applying the Microsoft update and it should resolve the black screen issues.

Alan

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May 3rd, 2018 08:00

We are still having issues with workstation getting black screens on login after that update. These black screens do not last as long but are still a hindrance sometimes lasting up to 8 minutes.

May 3rd, 2018 13:00

We also had one that seemed to still have problems after the update.  We went into the Windows Store and let it update everything that it showed updates for.  But then I also used a GPO to disable the Windows Store.  Not sure which step fixed it.

May 3rd, 2018 13:00

Hi All,

I can confirm that the patch sorted the issue out for me with a problematic desktop. I deployed a couple new machines this week and with the new Windows 10 update to 1803 the issue seems to have gone so you can also try running that update

Steps taken on problem machine:

1. Download the update and save to C:\Temp

2. Set AppReadiness service to manual

3. Reboot machine and login with an account with admin credentials (I got the black screen issue, but you can open task manager with CTRL+ALT+DEL and go to new task >  c:\temp

4. Install the update

5. Reboot

When the machine rebooted I was able to login with a problem profile and the issue was resolved, desktop shows up, apps work again, start menu works again etc.

 

Matt

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May 4th, 2018 01:00


@Quynnwrote:

We are still having issues with workstation getting black screens on login after that update. These black screens do not last as long but are still a hindrance sometimes lasting up to 8 minutes.


Hi Quynn, have you enabled AppReadiness and installed the Microsoft update as per my last post?

Alan

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May 4th, 2018 02:00


@mjh_smileitwrote:

Hi All,

I can confirm that the patch sorted the issue out for me with a problematic desktop. I deployed a couple new machines this week and with the new Windows 10 update to 1803 the issue seems to have gone so you can also try running that update

Steps taken on problem machine:

1. Download the update and save to C:\Temp

2. Set AppReadiness service to manual

3. Reboot machine and login with an account with admin credentials (I got the black screen issue, but you can open task manager with CTRL+ALT+DEL and go to new task >  c:\temp

4. Install the update

5. Reboot

When the machine rebooted I was able to login with a problem profile and the issue was resolved, desktop shows up, apps work again, start menu works again etc.

 

Matt


Hi Matt,

Thanks for updating the thread. It's great to hear you have resolved the issue. Thanks also for clarifiying the steps you used for other user that may find them useful.

Alan

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