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December 15th, 2011 11:00

No sound on integrated speakers

Hi,

I have a DELL XPS 17 (L701X) and since a couple of days there is no sound anymore over the integrated speakers. When I plug in the headphones than there is sound. The driver of the soundcard (Realtek) is the latest one.

Also a restore to an earlier point in time did not resolve the issue.

Can anybody help?

Thanks and cheers

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December 15th, 2011 12:00

You should first re-install the audio driver, or alternately you could remove it in "Remove a program". If you do a simple un-install without removing it, when you re-boot Windows will re-install it which will reset its settings to the default ones. Or if you remove it and reboot then Windows will install its basic audio driver. In either case if you still do not get audio from the speakers then you might have the problem I will describe below.

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Dell laptops with HD audio (all models newer than the Inspiron 9300) utilize switching technology in the headphone jack, which is somewhat complicated. In addition to the usual mechanical parts, the jack also uses current & impedance-sensing techniques to trigger software configuration and switching (to send the audio signal to the speakers). Sometimes the laptops with these jacks develop this combination of symptoms:

    * Speakers don't work and are not muted or deselected
    * Headphone jack does work
    * Reinstalling audio driver does not help
    * Audio test in Dell Diagnostics passes
    * On models with 2 headphone jacks, one may be "checked" in the control panel as if in use
    * Sometimes but not always, a very gentle wiggle of a plug in the jack will get it to resume normal functioning, at least temporarily.


That combination of symptoms means that the sense pin in the jack is not working for some reason. Failure of the sense pin results in the computer behaving like there is always a plug in the jack. The software switch that should route audio to the speakers does not get triggered.


There are 3 ways to confirm that you have a failed sense pin:

1. Check for the combination of symptoms that I listed. If you have all of them then it is pretty certain you have the failed sense pin. Note that when you run the audio tests in Dell Diagnostics you should hear audio through the speakers. That is the opposite result from what one would expect. But note that if you do not hear the audio through the speakers during the tests then there is some other hardware problem, not a bad sense pin.

2. Replace the headphone jack. If that fixes the problem that confirms that you had a failed sense pin.

3. Restore the laptop to its original factory configuration. This is called PC Restore in XP and Factory Image Restore in Vista. If the speakers still don't work after PC/Factory Image Restore and you have the combination of symptoms listed above, that is a definite confirmation of a failed sense pin.

The only way to repair a jack with a failed sense pin is to replace it. Changing the jack on most models requires replacing the motherboard, but some models have a jack daughter board that can be replaced with a new one. See down below for a list of models with replaceable jack boards.

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How to Run the Audio Tests in Dell Diagnostics

These interactive audio tests are designed to narrow down the problem to either the software or hardware. The tests are independent of Windows and drivers, meaning it doesn't matter if those are working correctly or not. To run Dell Diagnostics

1. Restart the computer and tap the f12 key as soon as it starts to boot up .
2. Select 'Diagnostic' from the boot menu. The computer will run its pre-boot assessment tests (PSA) before Dell Diagnostics starts. During the PSA you will hear some tones through the system speaker but this does not adequately test the audio hardware. Dell Diagnostics plays an instrumental piece of music complete with drums, so if you only hear some tones then you have only run the PSA.
3. Dell Diagnostics should open after the PSA tests, or you should see an option to open it. If you have ever reformatted your entire hard drive then Dell Diagnostics will no longer be there as an option. In that case run it from the Drivers and Utilities (Resource) CD if you have one.
4. Select 'Custom', then the audio tests.
5. The tests will run. You don't need to run all of them. Just check whether or not audio comes through the speakers during the tests.

If you hear audio through the speakers during the tests (the tests 'pass') but not after you boot back into Windows, that result means that you have a software problem. Normally the  software problem would be in the audio driver, but if you have the rest of the combination of symptoms then the software problem is that the software switching is not working. But it is not working due to a hardware problem -- a failed sense pin. Dell Diagnostics cannot directly detect a failed sense pin. That is why Dell Diagnostics produces an opposite result than what one would expect when there is this particular hardware problem.

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May 27th, 2012 16:00

I have the same problem on my Dell XPS L502x with JBL internal laptop speakers and Realtek  HD audio and 2 headphone jacks. Speakers were working then all of a sudden stopped working today, but the sound still works with headphones plugged into the jack.

I was playing an mp3 using headphones then I unplugged the headphones from the jack in the middle of the song so that I could listen on the laptop speakers.  Since then I could not get the laptop speakers to turn on again.   Nothing is muted.  All the settings that I can find appear to be correct.

 

I will try reinstalling audio driver and your instructions above, unless you can think of something different for this particular issue.

 

regards,

Cherieo

 

 

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May 27th, 2012 19:00

Thanks, yes, that worked.  My laptop has 2 headphone jacks.  Apparently, the second jack was interfering somehow and retrying the plug in it a couple times made it finally shut down.

Cherieo

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May 27th, 2012 19:00

Cherieo, if re-installing driver does not help then try gently moving or wiggling the plug while it is in the jack socket. If that doesn't help then contact Dell about a warranty repair.

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May 16th, 2015 02:00

what i've found use ful 

Hello. Thanks for sharing that link. It is an interesting guide to the problem of "no sound".

However to be clear, the laptops under discussion in this thread do produce sound but due to a defect that has developed in the headphone jack the audio signal is blocked from the speakers.

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July 31st, 2015 15:00

Hello, JIMCO

1- trouble with integrated speakers. Integrated speakers stoped working, but headphones were OK. My first attempt was to unninstal the drivers. Like you said, Windows (10)  reinstall it after reboot. It did.

2- headphones plugged and working. But after I unplug it, the integrated speaker worked for a milisecond, and then made "all mute" (headphones too).

3- unninstalled IDT drivers. I'm on native drivers now.


How to solve this? The latest IDT Dell drivers are for Windows 8.

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August 2nd, 2015 04:00

The latest IDT Dell drivers are for Windows 8.

If it won't work with the native driver then it probably would not work with an updated IDT driver. The IDT company was purchased by another company last year and I don't know if there will be any IDT upgrade for Win10 anyway.

This might be a Win10 issue -- we don't yet know what audio bugs that operating system has and I would advise people to hold off installing it until the bugs are identified and eliminated -- or it might be failing speakers, or it might be a failed sense pin in the audio jack. See section 1 of the Headphone Jack FAQ for an explanation of the sense pin issue.

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August 2nd, 2015 21:00

Native drivers are working. If I revert to IDT it stops working.

If IDT won't upgrade it, I will have to stay with native drivers then. No other option?


(ps- I read the sense pin, tried the toothpick thing, no success)

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August 3rd, 2015 05:00

If IDT won't upgrade it, I will have to stay with native drivers then. No other option?

Yes, for now. Every now and then check the Dell support page for your model and see if there are any new Win10 drivers.

Also, as a workaround you could get inexpensive usb audio jack and plug the headphones into them.

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July 21st, 2016 17:00

I have a Dell Inspiron 1545.  The microphone stopped working. how to fix it?

Thank you. 

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July 22nd, 2016 20:00

I have a Dell Inspiron 1545.

Hello. Which operating system is on it?

The microphone stopped working

Internal mic or the external mic jack?

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July 22nd, 2016 20:00

Windows 7

Internal mic.    But it is affecting the Skype mic

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July 25th, 2016 05:00

Try re-installing the IDT audio driver and test the mic. Do not test with Skype  ecause it can have configuration issues that would make the test invalid. Try to record something using Windows Sound Recorder, or Audacity or something like that.

If the mic cannot record then it might have failed. The next time you perform a full system recovery, test the mic immediately afterward. If it still won't work then it has definitely failed.

The Inspiron 1545 was sold with an optional webcam. If you ordered the webcam when you bought the laptop then the internal mic is the one that is integrated into the webcam. Test the webcam and see if it is working. If not, that is probably the problem. If so, then open the webcam manager program and check the mic settings.

Also, go into the Windows Sound properties, click on the Recording tab (or right click the audio icon on the taskbar and click Recording devices). Right click on "internal mic" -- or maybe it says "microphone array" if you have the webcam. Click on Properties. Click the Levels tab and make sure the volumes are up. Click the Advanced tab and uncheck the "exclusive control" box if it is checked.

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