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17 R5, Thermal and Overclock buttons not working
Usually when I open Alienware Command Center I'm able to change my Thermal settings by clicking on the Thermal button. However, for the past few days I've been unable to do that because the button has simply had a loading symbol on it which doesn't react to being clicked (it's worth noting that the same is true of the Overclock button, though I'm unable to change that usually anyway). I've uninstalled and reinstalled Alienware Command Center as well as restarting my computer a few times, but to no avail. How can I fix this?
Konadreamer
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March 31st, 2020 19:00
@Lorenzo16 @Voidheart
I had the same issue after AWCC did an update. Uninstalled/re-installed in the normal way from my user account. Turns out that the problem in my case is that the registry is the problem. By that I mean that when the update installed it did not use administrative rights even though my use account has full administrative rights. So I ended up having to uninstall from the Administrator account and use a registry cleaner to get rid of all references in the the registry user accounts to the AWCC software. Used Revo Uninstaller to do it rather than Windows control panel. Downloaded the latest version of AWCC and OC Controls and installed them in the Administrator account using the 'Run as Administrator' command (right click on install file). This fixed everything and AWCC ran without a hitch after that. I think I also had to re-install in the user account as well.
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Lorenzo16
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March 31st, 2020 13:00
Me too, from few days on my Area-51m same problem, i can't modify thermal or overcloking.
Konadreamer
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March 31st, 2020 18:00
For @Voidheart and @Lorenzo16 ,
I apologize in advance for this super long post.
The problem came when AWCC tried to download an update and then the update will not install. You get an error. And every time you open up AWCC, it downloads the update it says it needs but won't install. AWCC was still functional for me, but having it do this annoying thing every time I opened it was maddening. First time around I uninstalled/reinstalled. Did not fix it. So I had to use the nuclear option. Please read this entire post before you do this. It will save you time and frustration (I hope).
Unfortunately, Dell doesn't make it as easy as uninstalling and re-installing AWCC. In fact, they just leave users hanging in the wind. So having spent hours trying to solve this problem, and there are other instances of this problem out there in the community forum which were somewhat helpful, I'm going to tell you what worked, if I can still remember all the steps. The root of the problem seems to be in the registry, so you have to clean out all the junk leftover there before re-installing the AWCC and associated software. It is important to re-install the software by using the 'Run as Administrator' option.
The Nuclear Option
them to. Usually in MyDocuments\Downloads. Or you can create a folder in the root directory of C: drive and put them in there so it's easy to find when you're switching between the admin account and your user account.
OC Controls--Do you really need it?
I hope this works for you and I apologize for being somewhat uncertain about my exact final steps. Aside from this, let me address the issue of the OC controls that are within Alienware Command Center. When you open up the program you will see the the laptop picture on the left at the bottom with 4 buttons for 'Overclock', 'Thermal, 'Audio', and 'Power'. The overclock box may say 'N/A' inside it. I actually never used it, but if you have and older BIOS version, I think there was a feature you could toggle to enable overclocking and by default it is set to 'Disable'. The latest BIOS version I have, they have removed that selectable feature and you cannot enable overclocking. I think the reason for this is because people may have fried their processors fiddling with the controls. I really don't know. You may have to revert to an older BIOS to get this control to work. But I have the i7-8750H in my 17 R5. The processor itself handles the speed it's running at depending on the load and thermal limits of the processor. It works really well. I regularly get 3.8-4.0 Ghz while gaming. The Achilles heel of these gaming laptops is they do not have nearly as good thermal dissipation as a desktop for obvious reasons--everything crammed next to each other. The GPU is right next to the CPU and the cooling fans cannot move enough air to really cool them adequately. Even though my CPU is rated at 45W TDP, it still get really hot, like 90C-96C under a full load. Gaming it usually sits around 80-90C for a game like Battlefield V. The GPU seems to be able to OC itself just fine. I have the 1070 and the GPU frequency has not problem maxing out at 1480 Mhz and the memory clock out 3800-4000Mhz. You don't really need to manually OC the CPU or GPU. They do just fine on their own.
Lastly, the question I've had lately is whether or not to disconnect the internal battery when I'm doing a lot of CPU/GPU-intensive activities, like Battlefield V. The battery does heat up and of course heat is the enemy of batteries. What I noticed is that when I max out the CPU/GPU load and I'm plugged into the power supply with the battery in, I would begin to see the battery power level start to slowly drop off. Specifically, this happened when I was running Folding@Home on Medium power setting in the app and also running a game. That's because the app itself is running all the cores at 100% load and the GPU is also running at near full load. It turns out that the battery is actually supplementing the ability of the CPU/GPU to handle a bigger load by helping stabilize the system voltage and also being able to feed more current into the system. I didn't figure this out until I pulled off the bottom cover, disconnected the battery, and just ran plugged into the power supply. When I did that and ran Folding@Home, the CPU would not go to full frequency and would hover around 1.2 GHz. It would throttle up with a game, but just not with Folding@Home running on Med or Full power modes. the GPU would do the same thing but the game would still run at a lower from rate, about 10-15% lower than when the battery was connected and also plugged into the power supply. I had originally thought that disconnecting the battery would provide more power to run games and such because I thought you'd be losing some of that gaming power to recharge the battery. Turns out that doesn't seem to be how it works but it also could be the case that there are settings somewhere in the firmware or power management software that change how the CPU/GPU act when the battery is disconnected and you're running straight from the power supply. Could it be the case that the power supply (240W) is under powered and the battery helps provide the extra juice needed for max loads? Maybe. I don't know. It's a real head-scratcher. I wish that Dell would provide some insight on this question.
Good luck and let me know if you have any problems! Hope this was helpful!
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Lorenzo16
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March 31st, 2020 23:00
@Konadreamer
I will try this solution, but this program , everytime i have a problem with AWCC.
bumpiestleek755
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April 12th, 2020 07:00
I faced this problem too. All you have to do is delete the alienware folder from program files and delete the alienware folder from the regestry editor too. Now, go to the dell website and sownload the following drivers: 1) Alienware command centre 2) Alienware os controls.
Install them both one after the other, then, you are good to go.
dawnbreaker
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December 14th, 2023 16:16
@Konadreamer THE GOAT.
Thanks for your help, it was very helpfull.