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September 14th, 2016 17:00

A little cooler

  I think I would like a little more cooling on my cpu.  Like more radiator, MayB some colored case fans.

   whats a 'Best Fit' ?  ( how much of the case components can I cool?)

I have Area 51 r2 (late 2014)

i7 5930  'K'

Soon to have titanx Pascal.

32 gb memory 2133mhz

1500 watt OEM power supply

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September 15th, 2016 19:00

R2 uses a 120 x 38mm radiator fan with a 25 / 27mm radiator = ~65mm intrusion

the reverse effect is to try a 25mm rad-fan with a 38mm radiator

Motherboard Swapped on Area 51 R2! Very Easy!

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here, Matt is using Corsair H80i GT with Noctua fan, probably a 25mm 4pin pwm type

  • 80i GT is a wider 49mm radiator, 'better' cooling potential than standard H80i (38mm rad)
  • if 25mm fan + 49mm rad = 74mm intrusion
  • note he is not using the stock motherboard, so the memory slots may orient different

the size / height of your memory cards may dictate if you can use a 49mm or need a 38mm

--> based on intrusion in the area of the left memory slots <--

  • note: 80i requires an open USB header to run Corsair Link software

I believe Asetek makes the standard A51 Alien cooler, part # K31VH; Asetek also makes Corsair's coolers (H80i is a rebranded Asetek, many companies ask for Asetek to design their coolers for them)


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the height of my HyperX T1 memory, I can't install a 49mm radiator, I'd need 'shorter memory'

Like others, I do not have the original motherboard in my R2 case. I'm using the Aurora R4 (Asetek) Premium Cooler 01YGW, 38mm wide with a 25mm wide 4pin pwm fan

38mm will be an upgrade over your whimpy stock cooler, 49mm is better but only if your left memory bank can support the extra 11mm intrusion, while using a slimmer 25mm radiator fan may help accommodate these wider coolers. The good part is that most nw coolers come with their own 25mm fan

  • some coolers come with dual 25mm fans for push-pull
  • push-pull means one fan on each side of radiator, see uTube vid later below
  • push-pull only works if left memory bank allows clearance

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typically for push-pull dual-fans we'd like identical fans, not a 'mix' of sizes as above

identical blue fans would be best here

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a y-splitter fan cable may help run push-pull off of one rad-fan header

(the shorter the better)

The stock motherboard is an Intel socket LGA 2011-3 or socket 2011-v3; make sure your cooler comes with the correct mounting hardware - if not? - try to re-use the stock retention ring that keeps your cooler held-down right now, since it might work. Socket 2011 & socket 2011-v3 may be compatible / idential, inquire before you buy. Socket 2011 does NOT need a new backplate, simply screw the retention ring to its front mounts

Always buy from a source that accepts easy returns, in the event the cooler is to wide etc, as in 49mm


I recently installed a Corsair Mag-Lev 120mm x 25mm blue led as a case fan, they are cool & quiet

The stock case fans are 120 x 38mm Delta or Nidec 1.4amp - 1.5amp

  • to reduce case fan noise, try a 25mm or 32mm 4pin PWM fan of 1amps or less

IMPORTANT

*** 1.5amps may be the MOST you want to draw from a fan header; if you wish to run two case fans off of one header (see later below, adding the 'missing fan'), you can try a y-split 4pin pwm adapter also from earlier:

  • if so, I advise you run / buy .75amp rated case fans MAX
  • .75 + .75 = 1.5amps
  • when running two fans off of one fan header in a y-split scenario, .75amp fans or less only
  • typically, 25mm 4pin pwm fans are rated at 0.1 - .75amps, so try 25mm types

Consult Alienware Services videos on Alientube & your PDF Service Manual for case fan removal


Missing $28 Case Fan

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When available from Dell, you can buy part# VNPD3 (~$28), which is a 120 x 38mm Delta case fan attached to the fan bracket: remove the cover plate & install the 'missing fan'

Sept 2016 update: VNPD3 DISCONTINUED

@Marctronixx and I chatted with Dell, VNPD3 'missing case fan' (bracket) is discontinued:

  • at my behest, Dell Sales claims they will ask Alienware factory to release back stock
  • if back stock exists, it will be made available again as spare parts inventory to buy
  • prepare for permanent discontinued status however

I advised Dell Sales that Area-51 is still being built, that the factory has to have stock of these, since VNPD3 is in reality just the top fan that every desktop is built with; our goal is to buy a spare parts top fan & place it at the missing fan spot

7T3N3 IS JUST A FAN

'When available', VNPD3 is the bracket + fan ... 7T3N3 'fan' does you no good, since you will have no case wall bracket to attach it with (VNPD3). Dell Sales will offer you 7T3N3 as a substitute, do not buy it, ask them to ask Alienware to release stock of VNPD3 ... it's just a plastic bracket for an active status computer, why is this so difficult ...

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MSI Raider Swap

"Alienware stock CPU cooler is okay. I added Corsair H55 and made 5-7 degree difference and way quieter  (doesn't have that rattle noise) + Noctua fan"

Area 51 R2-Upgrades, Mods, Clarifications

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I assume the cooler-logo was straightened out later

51-R2 1080 SLI FE Hybrid, i7-6850K, ASUS Sabertooth X99 Performance Build

Liquid-cooled Hybrid GRFX cards are another area to improve heat: here we see new fans in push-pull, & hopefully the CPU cooler will be replaced as well

  • new motherboard
  • 25mm fan + 25mm cooler + 25mm cooler = 75mm intrusion
  • left memory bank & memory card height needs to be accounted for
  • We might imagine a 25mm fan with double-wide 49mm cooler = 75mm intrusion

got it?

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stock cooler needs an eviction notice: abandon push-pull for the 49mm cooler

AlienAndy: My Aliens


[View:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psHda1bhCmU:550:0]

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September 14th, 2016 18:00

The only thing that's really necessary is the cpu cooler. Brass heatpipe coolers are great. If you can find what the space clearance in the case in inches is I can try and find a good one.

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September 15th, 2016 10:00

 I think theres 1 fan space empty,  And I think the cpu cooler could be bigger - this has probably been done b4.  MayB the empty fan slot with some custom funnel, pullin air across the mother board,

 The Triad case has lotsa room, I need to be home to measure though.

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September 16th, 2016 09:00

 Thanks Abunch  'Ole.   This is some valuable insight.  I'm on my way to cooler Operation.

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September 28th, 2016 16:00

Now I gotta find a cable to connect a corsair  ML 120(white) to my top fan connection. The fan doesn't

show/mention the cable being supplied.

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September 28th, 2016 22:00

(I just made an edit, bringing attention to the VNPD3 'missing case fan' as having a discontinued status at Dell Spare Parts this week, my original post is in limbo waiting mod approval to re-publish; that post has a pic of a y-splitter cble)

@Brewster

  • you mean a y-splitter cable?
  • which top fan connection, the cooler or the top case chassis fan

For the public: the 'case wall' / chassis fans, for those now lucky enough to have a VNPD3 bracket, to run a top & 'missing' mid-fan off of a fan y-splitter cable (4pin pwm cable using 4pin pwm fans, right?), it is best to have a matching pair of fans there, rated 0.75amps or less

To run a cpu cooler radiator in dual-fan push-pull configuration off of the x1 mthrbrd cpu_fan header, a 4pin pwm y-splitter cable is just the part you need, again, using matching fans rated .75amps or less

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September 29th, 2016 07:00

I don't have your motherboard; others who tried to incorporate the mid-fan said that:

#1 Command Center has no built-in mid-fan speed control

#2 the new mid-fan running off the mid-fan header runs at 100%, & no bios control to set fan speed 

I'm so used to telling people to get a y-spliiter & run it off the top chassis fan header, I forget it's because the mid-fan header is 'broke'. The idea is Command Center gives the granular fan speed control (auto & manual) using the top fan header. The mid-fan header only seems to output +12volts, meaning 100% max fan speed & no good way to reduce speed, unless you incorporate a dedicated fan controller. You get way more mileage out of a y-splitter, though. Here's a long read about it: Alienware Area 51 R2 (Late 2014 - 2015 model) missing lower memory...   

Note: you can equally split the cable with the bottom fan; this is if you have the missing mid-fan of course, but in the end, you want access to fan speed in Command Center, using top-fan or bottom-fan header, either one. If you're using identical fans for top/mid, then it's best to use the top-fan header, so they spin at the same rate / same rpm, a working pair in unison

Have a look on eBay for '4pin fan extension', let me know if that is what you basically need, or describe what ou need a little better; that's the 2nd time you said cable, & I can't visualize what you need, why you need, or what you hope your fan connecting scheme will eventually look like etc, ok? (=

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September 29th, 2016 07:00

  Well a splitter cable will be nice then 2 x .3 amp fans (replacing the "top fan" adding a "mid fan") would be cool.  But  IDK yet how fan speed control will work if just plug into the mid fan connector on MB.

  Or split the top fan connection and use the lower powered corsair ml 120 (led) in both locations.

I still donot see a single cable connector for 4 pins  on  AW  or Corsair Websites.  

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September 29th, 2016 08:00

 Righto..  (cable-  double ended 4 pin connector  for new fan)   I could just get the fan, and see if its got any wires at all in the box..  Then get the splitter..       thx  again

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May 7th, 2017 18:00

A quick note for those who are obsessed about the mysterious missing MID_FAN. On April 26 Alienware did a Tech Talk with the thermal system architect for the Area 51 R2.

Tech Talk - 4 mins 25 seconds 

At the above timestamp, he specifically mentions MID_FAN as being for "aftermarket use", as well as "when we do liquid graphics card cooling."

To my knowledge the Area 51 R2 has never shipped with a hybrid (or pure liquid) cooler, but perhaps this was the plan at one point. 

With modern Hybrid GPUs, the fans are most often controlled by the GPU temperature itself, which renders the missing motherboard support for MID_FAN less of a problem.

I do wonder, though, what their idea about airflow direction was.  The front is supposed to be intake, but that has two disadvantages with GPU liquid cooling: 1) pulling hot air from the AIO radiator into the case, and 2) setting up a bit of an imbalance between the three front fans pulling air in and the solitary rear fan as exhaust.  Pushing air out the front from MID_FAN would make more thermal sense, but I wonder what it would do to the airflow dynamics?

And, of course, all this is moot until the stupid VNPD3 part comes back in stock. Wonder how hard it would be to produce a 3D print of it?

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May 16th, 2017 11:00

Oh the irony: just checked more closely, and my case actually has *two* VNPD3's -- the lower one is present, with a blank sheet lightly glued on.  No need to order one now...

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